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Anybody have issues with the brake master cylinder?

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Old Dec 11, 2013 | 12:42 PM
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Default Anybody have issues with the brake master cylinder?

I recently went to the dealer to get the gas overfill thing fixed, and the mechanic guy told me the master cylinder is leaking into the booster. I have noticed quite some time ago the pedal felt a little "softer" and it makes a "whooshing" every time I press it. Anyway long story short they were quoting me like 400 dollars and some change. I figured I could do it myself ( I've dome other stuff ) but not sure which kind to get.
Should I get a remanufactured one, or a new one?
Plus these things seem so hard to find.
Anyone have any recommendations?
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I tried searching on here but no mater what I typed, a blank white screen is all I got.
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Old Dec 11, 2013 | 01:20 PM
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There's a little known secret that TF has an oversized master cylinder but there's a Mopar piece that is fairly equivalent. Last time I checked the price was $89.....obviously you'll need to budget a few bucks for fluid but it's still cheaper than the $400 the dealer quoted. I'll look for the pn but it's from the euro models and is a direct bolt-in.

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Old Dec 11, 2013 | 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by karls
There's a little known secret that TF has an oversized master cylinder but there's a Mopar piece that is fairly equivalent. Last time I checked the price was $89.....obviously you'll need to budget a few bucks for fluid but it's still cheaper than the $400 the dealer quoted. I'll look for the pn but it's from the euro models and is a direct bolt-in.

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I believe its the one off a 2010-2011 Dodge Nitro. O possibly the one off the jk8s

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Old Dec 11, 2013 | 01:51 PM
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Yep, jk8 I think. I'm still looking for the number, I wrote it down somewhere.

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Old Dec 11, 2013 | 02:06 PM
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If you go with a bigger master cylinder diameter without also installing bigger calipers, it will take more pressure on the pedal to get the same amount of braking.
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Old Dec 11, 2013 | 02:27 PM
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I was under the impression from TF that the larger master cylinder bore simply moves more fluid with the same pedal travel.

Input 1 psi, output of 2psi vs the stock input of 1psi, output of 1psi (fictional numbers for demonstrative purposes only).

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Old Dec 11, 2013 | 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ronjenx
If you go with a bigger master cylinder diameter without also installing bigger calipers, it will take more pressure on the pedal to get the same amount of braking.

My own JK 'Big Brake' research: - Page 3

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Old Dec 11, 2013 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by karls
I was under the impression from TF that the larger master cylinder bore simply moves more fluid with the same pedal travel.

Input 1 psi, output of 2psi vs the stock input of 1psi, output of 1psi (fictional numbers for demonstrative purposes only).

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It can move more fluid, but with the larger master piston diameter, fluid pressure goes down, assuming the same amount of foot pressure on the pedal. And it won't really move more fluid if used with the OEM calipers.

It would take a smaller master piston diameter to make more pressure in the lines with the same amount of foot pressure on the pedal.
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Old Dec 11, 2013 | 03:32 PM
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Ya, I too was under the assumption the TF had a bigger bore diameter. I have found one for around 70-80 dollars, its a DORMAN. I cant find any available to pick up.
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Old Dec 11, 2013 | 03:45 PM
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According to TF website. A 2010 Wrangler has a larger bore than any other years.
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