Headliner for hardtop
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I received a cleaner, postable .jpg form of the flyer that I thought I'd share:
Just to be clear, these are available from our sponsors, like Northridge. Soundcoat DOES NOT sell retail so don't call them directly.
Hey, I see Dave has them on his web site:
http://www.northridge4x4.com/proddet...=SOUNDCOAT-4DR
http://www.northridge4x4.com/proddet...=SOUNDCOAT-2DR
Dave, feel free to lift the flyer in .jpg form from my photobucket account at:
http://photobucket.com/JeepJKSoundcoatPanels
Just to be clear, these are available from our sponsors, like Northridge. Soundcoat DOES NOT sell retail so don't call them directly.
Hey, I see Dave has them on his web site:
http://www.northridge4x4.com/proddet...=SOUNDCOAT-4DR
http://www.northridge4x4.com/proddet...=SOUNDCOAT-2DR
Dave, feel free to lift the flyer in .jpg form from my photobucket account at:
http://photobucket.com/JeepJKSoundcoatPanels
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Was just going over some old threads when getting to this one. Check Northridge website for these items and found they are now listed for $379. for 2-door, and $399. for 4-door. That's $150. more than HotHead Headliners 2-door kit and $130. more for the 4-door kit. That's a big difference now, to bad.
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Was just going over some old threads when getting to this one. Check Northridge website for these items and found they are now listed for $379. for 2-door, and $399. for 4-door. That's $150. more than HotHead Headliners 2-door kit and $130. more for the 4-door kit. That's a big difference now, to bad.
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Just for the record
Hothead Headliners are not made out of cardboard and craft store glue. We use waterproof panel boards which are what upholstery shops across the country use for making door panels and other custom panels. You can leave these panel boards sitting out in the rain and they are not damage, so the condensation and moisture that may form inside a hardtop will never damage them. As for the glue, we use an industrial grade automotive contact cement that holds up to high heat better than anything I've ever used. Does all that mean that Hothead Headliners are made from the best materials out there, no. I'm sure NASA has all kinds of material that cut heat and sound more, but Hothead Headliners are made from material that are designed for just what they are being used for. Just pull the headliner panel board out of any car and you'll see that's true.
I hope that didn't come across as defensive. All we at Hothead Headliners want is for Jeep owners to have access to the products that they want, so we will keep making our headliners as long as you all want them.
Thanks for your time.
Mark
I hope that didn't come across as defensive. All we at Hothead Headliners want is for Jeep owners to have access to the products that they want, so we will keep making our headliners as long as you all want them.
Thanks for your time.
Mark
This ain't no fabric over cardboard and craft store glue. This is high end sound absorption materials.
They decided to use Cabfoam M with Black Matte Film + GPDS Damping Sheet. The damping sheet gives the product rigidity so that you don’t have the foam compressing into the contours of the Jeep’s fiberglass top. It’s produced with HP-10 Adhesive which is a simple peel and stick. And it STICKS! It's a permanent installation. The whole thing is about 1" thick which fits perfectly everywhere.
The interior's acoustics are vastly improved. I'll have graphs and sound samples soon as well.
Pics are here: hxxp://photobucket.com/JeepJKSoundcoatPanels
That graph is just for the foam alone, but doesn't include the added affects of the damping sheet. They will produce an updated graph.
They decided to use Cabfoam M with Black Matte Film + GPDS Damping Sheet. The damping sheet gives the product rigidity so that you don’t have the foam compressing into the contours of the Jeep’s fiberglass top. It’s produced with HP-10 Adhesive which is a simple peel and stick. And it STICKS! It's a permanent installation. The whole thing is about 1" thick which fits perfectly everywhere.
The interior's acoustics are vastly improved. I'll have graphs and sound samples soon as well.
Pics are here: hxxp://photobucket.com/JeepJKSoundcoatPanels
That graph is just for the foam alone, but doesn't include the added affects of the damping sheet. They will produce an updated graph.
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I am not selling nor manufacturing this product. I'm a JK'er who was lucky enough to complain about the poor sound qualilty of my hands-free cell phone to a company that happens to be in a position to do something about it.
My JK was used as the prototype. Like EVERYONE else on this forum, I immediately shared my mod with fellow JK'ers who may also benefit from my experience. (Just look at how long the "What was done to your JK this week" thread is.) Then when I was told this thing also has an R-4 insulation value, I knew others here were posting about how hot/cold their JK gets, so maybe they can benefit from this thing too. How great would that be?
I did not knock any other manufacturer. There are other JK'ers out there who are making their own headliners. In fact, in this thread alone, on the same page as my post that was quoted above, were two such posts. One asks what it's made out of, and the other talks about making them yourself. I WAS ANSWERING THESE POSTS WITH MY COMMENTS. I WAS NOT MAKING DISPARRAGING REMARKS ABOUT A SPECIFIC PRODUCT.
There's yet another JK'er who used screws and snaps to put his own headliner on. There are others who bedline their tops, and so on. We're all crafty. We all share our findings with each other. Anything else would be censorship. People come to this forum to share and learn.
As yet another poster put it here, competition is good for the consumer, not always good for the manufacturer. Speaking as a consumer, I'm glad about that.
I won't go so far as to ask for an apology. I think we are all like-minded and have common goals and interests. Just don't mis-characterize mine.
Oh, and please don't PM complaints to me. I'm only interested in sharing, helping and having fun with my fellow Jeepers.
My JK was used as the prototype. Like EVERYONE else on this forum, I immediately shared my mod with fellow JK'ers who may also benefit from my experience. (Just look at how long the "What was done to your JK this week" thread is.) Then when I was told this thing also has an R-4 insulation value, I knew others here were posting about how hot/cold their JK gets, so maybe they can benefit from this thing too. How great would that be?
I did not knock any other manufacturer. There are other JK'ers out there who are making their own headliners. In fact, in this thread alone, on the same page as my post that was quoted above, were two such posts. One asks what it's made out of, and the other talks about making them yourself. I WAS ANSWERING THESE POSTS WITH MY COMMENTS. I WAS NOT MAKING DISPARRAGING REMARKS ABOUT A SPECIFIC PRODUCT.
WHat material is the outer layer material made out of?
Also the hardtop panel area's tend to sweat in the summer with the a/c on or in the winter with the heat on, will the material absorb water or is it waterproof? Also how does it mount to the hard top? (Velcro/Snaps in place/ ect..) Very interested would love some more details.... Can you post up some pics please. Thanks
Also the hardtop panel area's tend to sweat in the summer with the a/c on or in the winter with the heat on, will the material absorb water or is it waterproof? Also how does it mount to the hard top? (Velcro/Snaps in place/ ect..) Very interested would love some more details.... Can you post up some pics please. Thanks
Visit just about any fabric shop and you can pick up enough headliner material in the color of your choice for $30 US to do the average SUV or minivan. A simple visit to any of the big box lumber yards will get ya a 4'x 8' piece of suitable backing material for less than $20 US. A couple cans of heavy duty 3M spray adhesive @ $15 each or less and a roll of heavy duty velcro at the same big box and you will have enough sticky stuff to do several JKs.
Make a template from cardboard for whatever it is you want to cover and you're off to the races.
Partner up with a bud and you could get headliners for less than half what everyone seems to be charging.
None of this stuff is hard, nor does it require special tooling. Point of fact, I just finished redoing the headliner in my '98 XJ... hardest part of the whole job was getting the headliner in and out without damaging the backer...
Make a template from cardboard for whatever it is you want to cover and you're off to the races.
Partner up with a bud and you could get headliners for less than half what everyone seems to be charging.
None of this stuff is hard, nor does it require special tooling. Point of fact, I just finished redoing the headliner in my '98 XJ... hardest part of the whole job was getting the headliner in and out without damaging the backer...
As yet another poster put it here, competition is good for the consumer, not always good for the manufacturer. Speaking as a consumer, I'm glad about that.
I won't go so far as to ask for an apology. I think we are all like-minded and have common goals and interests. Just don't mis-characterize mine.
Oh, and please don't PM complaints to me. I'm only interested in sharing, helping and having fun with my fellow Jeepers.