I think you missed the point. If the best way for manufacturers to make their revenue is to intentionally engineer their cars to fail after warranty, why would two of the best-selling car manufacturers in the world not be clued into this little secret?

 

truth is simple. Different philosophy on company goals, mantras, etc. Look at Volvo. I went on a tour of their factory on Gothenburg. Their view is to build a product that is as close to 100% recyclable as possible! all while having a vehicle that lasts beyond the norm. They want someone to buy a car and return in 10, 15, 20 years for another. That is why they have the catch phrase "Volvo for Life". More than one meaning in that little 3 letter word. BTW, while we are on Thai topic, do any of you work for a global manyfacturer? If not, you are missing more than you realize. There is so much shot that goes on in the the meetings when product design, naming, R&D, testing, data collection, marketing, projected sales, revenue streams, pipelines, product manufacturing sustainability,......... This list is very long. Hell, we spent 3 weeks deciding over a name, pulling in statistics, doing market surveys and research. After all info and data was collected, it was 3 weeks of discussions, all around numbers. Coming from outside the manufacturing industry, to the inside of a global manufacturer, is a huge awakening. We have a display at out headquarters of patented ideas that never went to market. Yeah, there are about 1900 little gadgets in there. Great ideas, no marketability. Wasn't profitable. Too expensive to manufacture, etc.

 

Gotcha. So it's only Jeep (or whichever other car company might suit the argument) that employs these underhanded engineering practices. Now I understand.

Dude, you win - I'm out.

 

When ordering a new Jeep wouldn't it be nice to see the following two check box's for options:

-serviceable components (u joints and bushings with grease fittings ect)

-anti-seize applied to all suspension component fasteners.

 

it should be standard but at least use 9/16 bolts when the holes in all the parts and brackets your designing are drilled to that specification . Common sense tells you not to put a small bolt through a large hole unless you don't care of it sloppy when you are building millions of vehicles all the same don't tell me you don't think about these things how do bad heads slip through a tolerance inspection ? and then slip into other year models as well ? just curious how these things are repetitively unseen with out anyone stopping production line

 

every company does a life cycle test to see what the limit is of there products from sub assemblies to final product they have a pretty good guess when something will fail. The way marketing is for new cars they do not want you to keep them for more then 5 years. Yes you can get a lifetime warranty on most chrysler products but they do not thank you keep the product for that long. " new is better then that old thing you had for two years" I get mail all the time to trade in my jeep it's a 2008 I'll keep it till the wheels fall off it has 54000 my 1998 Ford expedition has 280000mi and only has maintenance done to it and has never broken down 1979 cj 7 with God knows how many miles on it it wasn't bad shape when I got it. Call me crazy but I don't think I will get a new vehicle soon I will just get a old one and fix it the way I like it. Sorry about the rant but I don't think American cars are built as good as they use to be.

 

not really. But every company has their agenda and strategies. Even the company I work for makes decisions that leave many shaking their heads. Sometimes, mgmt gets their way. Sometimes, the engineers. Sometimes, marketing. And often times, the finance dept. it isn't an easy gig, stressful actually. But, even if the final decision seems to go against much logic, there is always something compromised.