right,....read my reply..

 

Works fine on the JK. I thought it was a really nice touch that they let it start in gear in low. The wheelers got the nod over the lawyers.! Used it serveral times last week.

eBrake, clutch and gas works well too...unless it's really hairy, then the ebrake has a hard time holding the weight of the vehicle. It held fine for me in some tough spots though...even with 37's.

 

Being from the east (as someone else mentioned in this thread) and being new to
off-roadin' (first time jeep owner here) i have never heard of this concept before and can't wait to try it to see how it behaves. my buddy and i (another poster on this site Ge99ne) went out one day (actually the first time i had driven my new baby off-road) and managed to stick mine to the axles in peanut butter consistancy mud as luck would have it. figures that a newbie would get stuck in a jeep. thought that wasn't possible after much embarassment ensued ge99ne had to pull me out. luckily he had tow straps, and now i have front tow hooks at the top of my list to order next time i have some spare cash lying around (we had to hook to the front axle and run the strap over the front bumper). anyway i wonder if i had tried this technique if i would have been able to pull myself out? also, i am wondering like another poster mentioned how hard and what kind of stress this technique puts on the various mechanical parts involved? i am in no way a mechanic and am not made of money to replace crap that gets prematurely worn out. any insight would be great!:confused:

 

Well JKJeremy, first off if you have never gotten your Jeep stuck then you can't really call yourself a real Jeep owner. I think all of us have at least once. And second being a proud owner of a YJ (which doesn't have that fancy push in clutch or won't start feature) I have used that feature more than once, sometimes on accident cuz I just plain forgot to push in the clutch , And with well over 100,000 miles on my 4.0L I just recently replaced my starter. I have not had to replace anything else on it. Not to shabby for 13 years and all those miles. So I don't think it adds all that much stress IMO.

 

That is an excellent feature. I had it in my truck back in college that I wheeled with. And even here on the East Coast it was used. I remember one time it saved me some heavy tree damage. I had gotten the rear end off my line and it slid very close to a tree. Any vehicle drift with the clutch and I was kissing a nice tree. Pressed the bypass and the starting lurch pulled me clear of damage.

 

I'd like to see how to work a hand throttle up to the new JK, as it has an electronic throttle - the hand throttle would have to be cantilevered from the gas pedal to actually move it I believe. Starting it in gear is a godsend when it comes to extreme trails as you dont have to lose your spot that you just clawed your way too....also....if something happens that the engine wont stay running...you can crank your way to a safe spot to do repairs. I've driven a YJ up on a trailer before using the starter motor (thank goodness for dual batteries)

 

seems like every time i go out with ge99ne i manage to get stuck and he has to save my a$$. this is a nice picture from last night's adventure.....

the jeep was literally resting on the left side of the frame/skidplate and the front passenger wheel was no longer in contact with the ground....the starting in gear trick was of no use in this situation

 

Well Jeremy wouldn't have stuck it if he'd just drive it like he stole it.

 

It looks like you were about to drive into a pond....or is that just a nasty mud-bog you were headed for???