take warning ontarians this law was/is close to coming here
i would be all up for this
IF
my insurance premium dropped by at least half as much as i would have to spend on a set of winter tires and steel wheels
say 500$ ok and there was no PST to pay on the tires as the gov made it mandatory.

i think a better solution would be what Sweden has
a summer test for driving and this is where you start you driving experience then once you pass your summer driving you go onto winter driving classes and you take a test in January or February.

see the problem lies in that nearly everybody gets there experience in good weather when the shiat hits the fan weather wise people assume too much,,,,for example that the rubber on there tire doesn't harden but gets stickier at -13*C and in the middle of a snow storm.

i would want to see mandatory graduated seasonal licensing. more than legislated snow flake tires or snow mountain tires. emblem speaking

 

I have a hard time thinking a cop is going to say anything about the MTs I run. Pretty sure they are "winter"

 

The MT's I run are amazing in the snow...in fact, any MT I have ever used has been just perfect in the snowy weather....its all in the PSi.

 

I LOVE MY PROCOMP XTREME MTs IN THE SNOW EVEN WIDE AT 12.5 "

NOW GOT TO GET SOME MIGHT GO W/T THE TOYOS

 

Trust me, it is. My son's friend is a Police Constable with the Sûreté du Québec (Quebec Provincial Police) and even they admit that there's no way they're going to enforce this. However IF you find yourself in a ditch with no winters on, then it's a fine! Hmmm, could this be yet another money grab???

 

Perhaps there will also be criminal charges if you are in an accident and you don't have the winter tires. Someone who doesn't end up in a ditch or an accident can probably not worry about this law. Unfortunately few people plan on going into the ditch or having an accident.

I'm not certain if a insurance company could refuse to cover your accident coverage if you not using the correct legal tires, but it may be something that may happen.

 

octo that is a good point
insurance could say that you were not in compliance with the law and basically say that you are on your own

pretty sure in QC that they have yearly inspections and (that should lead to cheaper insurance) vehicles are in compliance with provincial safety standards meet insurance safety requirements.

I'm sure there are clauses that state that the vehicle must be in compliance to / with canadian motor vehicle safety standards act, but qc insurance companies may add that you must meet provincial safety requirements.

i ditched a car due to bald tires and yes the first thing the cop looked at was the dot stamp and at how bald my tires were , how could he not the car was up side down and tires at eye level. ding ticket.

it definitely is all in the tire pressure when it comes to winter time and MT tires
lower the pressure the more the tires heat up more they heat up the more the rubber remains pliable and less air means more contact patch and more conformity to surface.

 

i live in QC and the "winter tire law" is so confused , the police don't even have a list of what kind of tire are acceptable by the law

i will certainly put some BFG a/t KO , i always had great success with theese tire even after 4 years and over 100k km on the same set

but before spending around 1500$ on tires , i got to know if they are legal for winter use



and FYI we don't have annual inspection ,

 

Bumping this thread, as I find myself in the same situation. Gotta have to fork out over $1000 for winter tires and winter rims. I currently have stock 17" but will have to downsize to 16".

Unfortunately, any tires considered as M+S are not acceptable.

Definition of a winter tire as per the new law:

Tires on which one of the following inscriptions appear: Arctic, Blizzard, Ice, LT, Snow (but not mud and snow), Stud or Winter.
or

Tires on which the icon representing a mountain with a superimposed snowflake appears.

Starting on December 15, 2014, the draft regulation specifies that only those tires on which the icon representing the mountain with the superimposed snowflake appears shall be considered to be winter tires.

For more info:

http://www.mtq.gouv.qc.ca/portal/pag...iver#mandatory

FYI- I'll be going from a 255/75R17 to 265/75R16 and i'm considering the Yoko Geolander I/T G072. I live in the country (Wakefield for those in the Ottawa/Outaouais area) and drive 40 minutes to work. Our roads are never plowed and last year, I never had any problems with my stock goodyear wrangler All Season tires. This new law is upsetting, I was saving money to get myself a better set of offroading M+S tires that I could also use in winter.

 

I still have a hard time thinking a cop who sees the Stock Rubicon MTs or any other MT, will say anything to you. Not when there are a thousand Civics blowing by you with low profile baloney skins on.