I have this Para Ordinance P12 Limited. I like the way it looks and feels in the hand, but as for reliability, its shit. It wont shoot a full mag without a failure to feed / eject. I had the feed ramp polished and other stuff done to it, but nothing will make it run right. One of these days id like to send it to Novak, Chuck Rogers, or someone like that and have everything done to it (if they would take it).



corey d

 

Try one in .38 Super!

 

The OP was requesting to stay under $1,500 or I would have said Wilson Combat myself. I have been drooling over these for a few years now . I have yet to "pull the trigger" and get one....list price being $3,500-$5,000 . A little of topic but I do have 3 of their custom alliance knives that I'm extremely proud of.

 

Oh, i didnt know about the $1500 limit. Heres one for under 1500, i think. I may have posted it earlier in the thread, but i took the peanut grips off and installed some VZs. I also changed the trigger and the mainstpring housing.

 

I'm going to be that guy ... I will never own a Kimber because I had one years ago while they were trying to re-engineer a few parts and failed. It just left a bad taste in my mouth and I won't be going back. As a person who shoots competitively, builds firearms, and also ran a few gun shops the Springfield's will always get my vote. Almost all of the guns mentioned and pictured are beautiful gun as well as reliable and accurate. I have to admit that another part of my reluctance to buy a Kimber deals from how hard it is to deal with them on a business level and that they lost a customers gun one time.

Springfield TRP Operator is my gun of choice, bought it for $1100 used but you can often pic them up for ~$1500 new. With just a little adjustment I have my trigger down to 3 lbs (no polishing, lube, filing, or stoning). Kimber's usually come with a 4.5 lb pull from the factory, unless of course you are buying one of their competition pistols.

A horrible picture of mine with slim grips.


Factory photo

 

Just bought me a Para Night Hog today.

 

You aren't "that guy" I wholeheartedly agree. I stayed out of this post at first because I didn't want to be "that guy" BUT...
I do not like nor own Kimber pistols. They have a SERIOUS flaw in my mind. They use a Schwartz style firing pin block. This works off of the grip safety, NOT the trigger. IF you hold very high on the grip safety, there is a CHANCE that the hammer will fall but the firing pin NOT go forward. I have had this happen to me with a T&E Kimber. I carry Springfield Armory ONLY in my 1911's. They DO NOT have a firing pin block at all, instead there is a titanium firing pin. It lacks enough mass to cause a drop discharge. Bonus is that normally this is a high dollar ADD on on most guns, and your 1911 ALWAYS goes bang.

 

i own a kimber. i love it but i would go with para ordinace. great shooter and more options. same price

 

A guy i work with makes his own 1911 and is a custom gun to each person. It's freakin sweet!! But they cost a little more than $1,500 for it.

I had a Springfield Armory and loved it. Wish I never sold it.

 

Kimber or NightHawk Customs, hands down.