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My Willys Jeep Build "Noob Needs Advice"

Old Dec 31, 2010 | 12:14 PM
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I found a complete rolling chassis for a willys mb. complete drive train as well..


the guy has told me to make him an offer and we will start from there ..

does anyone know what this is worth?

its old outside and covered in rust

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Old Jan 3, 2011 | 04:55 PM
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does anyone know if a 46 willys drivetrain is compatible with a willys MB 42 to 25?
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Old Jan 9, 2011 | 04:39 PM
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does anyone know if a 46 willys drivetrain is compatible with a willys MB 42 to 25?
MB axle ratio ;4:88,rear full floater . 1946;axle ratio 5:38,rear can be full floater (early col.shift) or tapered axle. Steering bellcrank is on front axle tube on MB:on chassis cross member on 1946 up. Transmission on MB is T-84 3spd,MB tub has flatter trans hump than CJ tub that takes the T-90 3spd,can use 1946 eng,trans,transf combo by using CJ trans crossmember,trans floor cover.This is a very brief listing just to give an idea...If the MB is a rolling chassis,yes,you can transplant the CJ engine,trans/transfer into the MB,Don't mix front /rear axles due to different ratios & steering bellcrank attachments.Have Fun!
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Old Jan 9, 2011 | 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Four Low

MB axle ratio ;4:88,rear full floater . 1946;axle ratio 5:38,rear can be full floater (early col.shift) or tapered axle. Steering bellcrank is on front axle tube on MB:on chassis cross member on 1946 up. Transmission on MB is T-84 3spd,MB tub has flatter trans hump than CJ tub that takes the T-90 3spd,can use 1946 eng,trans,transf combo by using CJ trans crossmember,trans floor cover.This is a very brief listing just to give an idea...If the MB is a rolling chassis,yes,you can transplant the CJ engine,trans/transfer into the MB,Don't mix front /rear axles due to different ratios & steering bellcrank attachments.Have Fun!
Thanks for the heads up. I think I'll just start with the L head engine so I have something to tinker with.

I found a 1946 L134. so this Will this be the same engine in the Willys MB?
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Old Jan 10, 2011 | 05:03 PM
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Yes,the 1946 can be used in the MB-Enjoy!
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Old Jan 10, 2011 | 05:26 PM
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I have a 1955 cj5. Rebuilt f head bot a year ago. New solex carb. Converted to 12v alt. Runs good. Converted to saginaw steering spring over with dana 25 that's been professionally setup ie caster and pinion angle. New brakes and master cylinder. Too much stuff to list. Complete jeep. Ill take 800 for it. Just thought id put it out there. Love my project but moved to new location and don't have a place to keep it. Ain't wont it to sit and rot away.
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Old Jan 10, 2011 | 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by myz28u
I have a 1955 cj5. Rebuilt f head bot a year ago. New solex carb. Converted to 12v alt. Runs good. Converted to saginaw steering spring over with dana 25 that's been professionally setup ie caster and pinion angle. New brakes and master cylinder. Too much stuff to list. Complete jeep. Ill take 800 for it. Just thought id put it out there. Love my project but moved to new location and don't have a place to keep it. Ain't wont it to sit and rot away.
Thanks for posting but my heart is set on history, the Jeep MB. It will also be used in ww2 film shoots.
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Old Jan 11, 2011 | 12:05 PM
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If you want an authentic WWII MB or GPW, you're into money, especially if you want to restore it with real NOS parts instead of reproductions.

If what you want is a reasonable copy of a military Willys or Ford that looks cool and is a hoot to drive, start with a CJ-2A and "militarize" it. You can go as authentic as you want and can afford.

Any 4 cyl flathead (L134) will work. It will mate to the drive train of any CJ before the CJ-5. So look for CJ-2A, CJ-3A and CJ-3B parts. There are differences but most of the parts are interchangeable. The 2A looks the most like an MB - split windshield, etc. so that's why you want one for a base. The 3B body is very different so only drive train parts are useful.

Google up military jeeps and you'll find a wealth of info. As already mentioned above, the g503 site is one of the best. But understand that the military sites tend to be purist and won't be that enthusiastic about a Jeep Salad approach. If that's how you want to roll, for the most help, look to the CJ-2A, CJ-3A and CJ-3B civilian sites. They'll get your Willys up and running and the military sites will help with military accessories, paint jobs and the like.

The post in this forum by GreenTJ_2_BlackJK on 6 Jan shows a good example of a poorly done Jeep Salad. It could be passed off as a 1950s M606, but only to those who know nothing about the old Willys. If you start with a CJ-2A and don't pretend it's an MB, you'll have a working Jeep that looks like one and can fulfill your MB longings for a lot less money.

Good luck.
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Old Jan 11, 2011 | 12:37 PM
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This build ran to about $6k, but was done before all the reproduction parts were available. It is probably more expensive to rebuild one now, but also probably a lot easier.



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Old Jan 11, 2011 | 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Davesrb
This build ran to about $6k, but was done before all the reproduction parts were available. It is probably more expensive to rebuild one now, but also probably a lot easier.

Dave
That's nice!!!!

Do you have more photos?
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