Military antenna
Finally got all the parts and installed it. Here is the write-up.

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From: Ft benning, ga
Nvis antennas do not point straight up (90) right? I am a super newb but know some bits and pieces. Is it mandatory to have a liscense to operate on hf channels? What is the range you can talk on using hf with an omni directional antenna? It is Los and radio power dependent correct. Also wondering why one would run a cb and a hf radiovwhen a hf radio encompasses the citizens band anyway
Originally Posted by rfrogman
I just purchased a 12' HF Military antenna (2-30MHz) for my rig. My intent is to mount it somewhere on the rear. When not in use I will pull it down over the passenger side. One of the possible mounting point is on the rear passenger side panel. This would require me to brace the inside since the body panel metal is so soft. Does any one have any suggestion on how to brace the inside? My other possible mounting point is on my OR-Fab tire rack but I am afraid it will hit the passenger side tail light when the tire rack is fully open.
Nvis antennas do not point straight up (90) right? I am a super newb but know some bits and pieces. Is it mandatory to have a liscense to operate on hf channels? What is the range you can talk on using hf with an omni directional antenna? It is Los and radio power dependent correct. Also wondering why one would run a cb and a hf radiovwhen a hf radio encompasses the citizens band anyway
"Range" is a relative term. Mainly because HF is affected by Sunspot activity (propagation). And for that reason, during the right conditions, with a vertical (omni) antenna, even a low power CB signal is possible to make it to the other side of the globe. But for the most part, CB freqs are good for ground wave (as so many put it "line of site") coms. When it comes to this it totally depends on the type of antenna and location. Could be anywhere from 5 to 50 miles or more. Yes power output would play a big part, but on CB you are only "legally" allowed 4 watts, and which also works out to about 12 on USB/LSB.
Your last question can be answered buy my first answer. It is illegal to talk on the HAM bands with a CB, and to use a HAM radio to transmit on the CB freqs. (channels)
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Good info!
When you refer to "ham" bands are these the bands that are exposed in meters? Military can talk on hf bands without license, is this because we use a military radio? I agree to range as a relative term and I have a fairly good understanding of propagation of sunspots and the ionosphere and it's different layers. What conditions would enable a vertical ground wave antenna to talk across the globe on 4 watts? Maybe a piece of ground with high conductivity near the ocean where the signal could unobstructed straight out till it hit the proper ionosphere layer? I would also guess that when getting that precise you would also be getting into minute details such as antenna lengths and wave lengths to match the ideal frequency. What makes talking with a ham radio on cb freqs illegal?
Sorry for the thread jack and 20 questions. I am Hella interested in this stuff and fairly new at it. You can reply to the thread I started in this section if you don't mind
When you refer to "ham" bands are these the bands that are exposed in meters? Military can talk on hf bands without license, is this because we use a military radio? I agree to range as a relative term and I have a fairly good understanding of propagation of sunspots and the ionosphere and it's different layers. What conditions would enable a vertical ground wave antenna to talk across the globe on 4 watts? Maybe a piece of ground with high conductivity near the ocean where the signal could unobstructed straight out till it hit the proper ionosphere layer? I would also guess that when getting that precise you would also be getting into minute details such as antenna lengths and wave lengths to match the ideal frequency. What makes talking with a ham radio on cb freqs illegal?
Sorry for the thread jack and 20 questions. I am Hella interested in this stuff and fairly new at it. You can reply to the thread I started in this section if you don't mind



Please correct me if I am wrong, but all those guys who modify old CB's to work AM modes on 10m would not do it if it were illegal.
I gotta get this right or I will never get my next license.


I thought an amature could modify a radio to be used on ham bands. For example you could take an old CB and modify it to work on 10M with no issues. However you can not modify a ham radio to work on 11m CB frequencies. 


Please correct me if I am wrong, but all those guys who modify old CB's to work AM modes on 10m would not do it if it were illegal.
I gotta get this right or I will never get my next license.





Please correct me if I am wrong, but all those guys who modify old CB's to work AM modes on 10m would not do it if it were illegal.
I gotta get this right or I will never get my next license.



Even then, if I recall there is a little more to it than that as a radio has to be "type accepted" to talk on the HAM bands. Meaning, I don't believe a HAM can take just any CB, modify it, and use it on the HAM bands. Don't quote me on this though, but I seem to remember something along these lines.



I was thinking CB was @ 10MHz?