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Pic heavy: No ground plain FireStick install - OEM tailgate looking install.

Old Dec 7, 2012 | 09:51 PM
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Hi guys,
I was trying to figure out the best solution for a CB antenna and came to the conclusion that an NGP Antenna was the best solution.
Here is my install with nothing more than a modified FireStick "3-way" mount.

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Old Dec 7, 2012 | 10:10 PM
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Old Dec 7, 2012 | 10:23 PM
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Looks awesome...clean tight factory look...where did you get that mount or how did you make it...I want one!
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Old Dec 7, 2012 | 10:29 PM
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Very very clean
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Old Dec 7, 2012 | 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Jhouse93
Looks awesome...clean tight factory look...where did you get that mount or how did you make it...I want one!
The "3-way mount" came with the Antenna. I pulled the top tailgate hinge cover. Measured the space I had to work with and cut the mount to size. Then drilled out the hole to fit the bolt that passes thru it into the tailgate and it was done. :-)
Then slotted the plastic cover.

I bought this kit - nothing else needed. Period.
Model: FG3-648-B w/3ft antenna $62.99 (MSRP*)

Ran the cable thru the tire bumper grommet and up thru the roll bar covers.
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Old Dec 7, 2012 | 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Tonka_yellow
Very very clean
Thanks :-)
Feels good to know it looks good to other people too.
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Old Dec 7, 2012 | 10:51 PM
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X2! Very nice clean install. I likey!
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Old Dec 8, 2012 | 01:13 AM
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Question....I have the same type setup but I m kind of confused by the whole NGP aspect of the antennas. I was intially haveing some issues with my CB but I put a new cable in and a longer 4 foot antenna. My SWR checks out perfectly and I used a multimeter to check my ground everything seems good to go. My question is......I have my mount like yours screwed into the tailgate in pretty much the same location. I have a 4 ft fiberglass antenna and a spring, do I need a NGP antenna? Thank you I hope I m not highjacking your thread with this question.
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Old Dec 8, 2012 | 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by atc22
Question....I have the same type setup but I m kind of confused by the whole NGP aspect of the antennas. I was intially haveing some issues with my CB but I put a new cable in and a longer 4 foot antenna. My SWR checks out perfectly and I used a multimeter to check my ground everything seems good to go. My question is......I have my mount like yours screwed into the tailgate in pretty much the same location. I have a 4 ft fiberglass antenna and a spring, do I need a NGP antenna? Thank you I hope I m not highjacking your thread with this question.
Just FYI - I am no expert (I solicited the help of my friend/coworker who used to be big into "radio's"). And I read a lot too.

BUT, what I understand is, if you are using a standard (ground plane needed) antenna, the majority of the antenna mast must be above the metal lines of body that are near it. The "ideal" position for a standard antenna is the center of a metal roof panel or center of a trunk panel and it uses the body as part of the reception and transmit system. The antenna must be grounded to it's "ground plane" the roof or trunk, etc.

If you do not make a clear path for the radio waves to leave a standard antenna, they will back feed into your CB radio and eventually burn out the radio itself.

***To answer your question, with an NGP (no ground plane) antenna, the antenna must be insulated from the ground plane, and the cable is of extreme importance. A standard antenna cable WILL NOT work with an NGP antenna. Instead of using a ground plane to help transmit the radio waves, the NGP antenna cable is "tuned" to the antenna and (I guess) substitutes itself for an actual ground plane (?).

Basically, in the end, the NGP antenna system circumvents a lot of issues that would normally be challenges with finding an ideal spot to mount a standard antenna on a Jeep.
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Old Dec 8, 2012 | 02:07 PM
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Sounds like a totally different setup but I think after months of headaches and trial and error and a lot of time reading....I m finally set up correctly. Thanks for the info!
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