The 2011 I just got was MSRP $39,500, and I got it for about $31,500 iirc. You won't get jack for your 2011 if you trade it. Just give the 2011 to your kids and buy yourself a 2012 ;)

crazy you can get a LR4 for about the same price as a fully loaded MW edition rubi unlimited. Safe to say you get a HELL of a lot more vehicle in the LR4 than you get in a jeep and honestly it isn't even remotely close (yes I know they are completely different). I'm a LR guy but due to the fact I can get an unlimited rubi for what it'd cost me to buy another D90 I'm in the process of ordering a jeep (am keeping my 04 discovery). The D90 I'd want would be 15-20 years old for the same price as a new unlimited rubi. If I had unlimited $ I'd go with the D90 but I don't and it is much cheaper to mod/fix a jeep. Probably buying my gf the LR4 after I pop the ?

To each their own, but I wouldn't choose the LR4 over a Wrangler even if the LR4 was only $25k. I can't stand the looks, the fixed top, non-removable doors, independent suspension...the list goes on. Admittedly, I love Jeeps though and I respect that not everyone feels the same way. To me though, you'd be getting a HELL of a lot less vehicle buying the LR.

You're full of shit ...... local MSRP LR4 Base price point is $55K. When the LR3s were introduced they were $55K for the HSE.

My GF hates the LR3/LR4 look .... says it reminds her of a rolling refrigerator. I drove a friends LR3 HSE when they first came out... they didn't exactly establish a good reputation when the suspensions would deflate and you couldn't move the vehicle. Plus the paint was peeling off the front bumpers.

I would have bought a Disco II if they had just improved on that platform... went too upscale. So I bought a new 2005 Land Cruiser and the damn frame (welds) was defective - Lemon Law'd that one. $65K rattle trap ...

People bitch about Jeep leaks and rattles, but most haven't really experienced that the same happens to the upscale models.

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I definitely would not call a COD JK an already built Jeep. It's a Rubicon with different bumpers, rails, hood, black Rubicon wheels and some silly badges all over it. You can get the AEV Mopar branded hood painted from several vendors here for $1100.00, Mopar branded AEV rear bumper $850.00 (for the price of the COD they should have used the rear bumper with tire carrier), Mopar branded AEV front winch mount bumper $1050.00 (they should have included the winch) and the AEV Mopar branded rock rails which are really the same as the enhanced Rubicon Mopar rails which run $550.00 and you get screwed because they don't credit you for the standard Rubicon rails which should be worth $300.00. So you are looking at $3500.00 in actual accessories that do not come on a standard Rubicon. You can buy all of the accessories when you buy your Jeep new and they will carry the standard factory warranty or if you do it after the fact 12/12. IMO it is all marketing. No one will even know what the MW3 means in a couple of years.

To each his own. I have already spent well over $3500.00 on my 2012 and already have another couple grand I am getting ready to put into it. To me that is already way too much but I know it is the never ending cycle of being a Jeeper. :thumbsup:

Think about starting from a COD platform at $47K then doing a nice lift, nice tires/wheels and you have already eclipsed over 50K. :doh: I'm not hating on the model because it is a cool looking Jeep. I am just saying there is no way in hell it is worth close to 50K for what you get.

I've seen MW editions for almost 50 with dealer options. Local Jeep place here added 5k to theirs because it was a special order or special edition and told me they couldn't take any off. I've owned four land rovers all bought from the same dealer in Greenville. I could get it discounted enough to buy it for the same price or cheaper as they want for the MW at the Jeep dealer so no I'm not full of shit. Obviously at a different dealer I could get the fully loaded MW for 45 or 47 but I could get the LR4 for 50 or right at it. Considering when I get my Jeep in I'll put 20K minimum in it to have it like I want it the Jeep will have more in it than any LR4 I'd ever own. LR4 used would pull more money and yes I know people like to say the Jeeps hold their value great and they do but the aftermarket parts don't and the LR4 holds its value as well. LR4 already has tons of power (it is a huge upgrade driving wise over the LR3...I owned one for a short while and hated it...have driven several LR4's and love them). The tires/front protection/light guards I'll add to the LR4 I'm buying for my soon to be fiancee will cost under 5K total. If you knew what you are talking about you'd see I'm not fos. Jeeps are expensive as all hell for what you get. I love Jeeps don't get me wrong and I'm buying one but they are definitely not a great value.

BFD, who cares what you can buy a LR4 Base for... as long as you continue talking apples and oranges this is a pointless subject. Value is only what one perceives. See what it will cost to convert your LR4 to live axles... then you can pretend to have a D90. Maybe you should add up what it costs to convert a JKU to a 6.1L Hemi to make it LR4 V8-like... or maybe you should explore a MB G-Class for your dream off-road vehicle and have something you can drive to the Ritz-Carlton.

... or just go buy a plain old Jeep, enjoy and stop comparing to your desired state of being.

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A CJ in 1982 had a window sticker of around $10,000.

Guess what that gets you in 2012 dollars?

A $24,000 JK Sport with few options. A 4 Door Rubicon is of course a lot more, but Jeep really hasn't raised its pricing in 30 years.

You would be correct. I went to a dealership at the time and CJ-7's were in the upper 9 grand sticker price. Ended up paying 4grand for a 77' CJ-5. Floorboards were rotted too.:thumbsup:

A base CJ-7 MSRP in 1982 was $7765.00. The CJ-7 Jamboree Edition which would have been the Rubicon or Sahara of today fully optioned came in right at $12,000.