I was just trolling a Hummer forum...
03-13-2008, 07:38 AM
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Those guys get about as off topic as we do once they start getting bored witht he discussion. It went from Hummer VS Wrangler to property taxes.
03-13-2008, 07:47 AM
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What I liked most is the one dude who owns both vehicles and is giving objective information without totally telling the Hummer guys their full of poop.
03-13-2008, 07:50 AM
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I got about 2 pages deep and had to fight the urge to register on their site and post a response... it's just typical "I don't want to admit that mine isn't best" syndrome. Same as on this site, when someone asks "which lift/CAI/gearing/winch/bumper/tire is best?" - the answer is (conveniently) always the same as whatever the poster owns!
All that being said, I KNOW that my Jeep can outwheel an H2 or H3... no question in my mind whatsoever.
All that being said, I KNOW that my Jeep can outwheel an H2 or H3... no question in my mind whatsoever.
03-13-2008, 08:56 AM
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Can't we all just get along???
Come one guys, we are all 4wd off-roaders here, well most of us.
Yes MOST H2s and H3s are "mall crawlers", but so are the some of the JKs. Not as many, but there are some.
I personally don't see a reason for buying a huge-ass SUV if you don't go off-roading or if you don't have to tow a boat.
Come one guys, we are all 4wd off-roaders here, well most of us.
Yes MOST H2s and H3s are "mall crawlers", but so are the some of the JKs. Not as many, but there are some.
I personally don't see a reason for buying a huge-ass SUV if you don't go off-roading or if you don't have to tow a boat.
03-13-2008, 09:29 AM
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I got about 2 pages deep and had to fight the urge to register on their site and post a response... it's just typical "I don't want to admit that mine isn't best" syndrome. Same as on this site, when someone asks "which lift/CAI/gearing/winch/bumper/tire is best?" - the answer is (conveniently) always the same as whatever the poster owns!
All that being said, I KNOW that my Jeep can outwheel an H2 or H3... no question in my mind whatsoever.
All that being said, I KNOW that my Jeep can outwheel an H2 or H3... no question in my mind whatsoever.
Just kidding. This whole Hummer vs Jeep vs FJ vs whatever is funny.Jeep was designed and built for the SOLE purpose of driving off road. The new Jeeps have WAY more comfort than previous years, but are still manufactured to drive off road.
Hummer was designed to replace the Jeep for military use; then they went public and GM bought them. The H2 is based on the Chevy Tahoe/Suburban frame and suspension. The H3 is based on the Blazer/Avalance frame and suspension. Stock H2s and H3s have the same off-road capability as the Chevy truck line.
GM marketed Hummers for new age disposable income Yuppies. Jeep went for the folks who were Yuppies, but wanted a vehicle that could make it to their favorite camp site.
So, which is better? My JK. 'Cause it's mine.
Ironically, on other Jeep sites there is the very same argument but between JKs and TJs (and I think the old TJ vs YJ argument is still around).
03-13-2008, 10:26 AM
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Most of the jeeps i see wheeling aren't rubicons...
03-13-2008, 11:30 AM
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The first post says it all in my eyes.
So, I own a H2. Why is it that I see so much hatred from Wrangler owners? Yet they always seem to be adminring the H2 when we pass. Theres a guy on my way home that has a bumper sticker that says "If I wanted a Hummer I'd call your sister" And his plate says H2 SUX. Why all the hate? This is my first H2 and I will someday hopefully take it off roading, any one know of a local off raoding club in the Northern Virginia area?
And, how does the jeeps compare to Hummers as in off roading capabilities?
So, I own a H2. Why is it that I see so much hatred from Wrangler owners? Yet they always seem to be adminring the H2 when we pass. Theres a guy on my way home that has a bumper sticker that says "If I wanted a Hummer I'd call your sister" And his plate says H2 SUX. Why all the hate? This is my first H2 and I will someday hopefully take it off roading, any one know of a local off raoding club in the Northern Virginia area?
And, how does the jeeps compare to Hummers as in off roading capabilities?
03-13-2008, 02:32 PM
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That was a good thread, thanks for the link.
One thing I did note. I saw less jeep bashing there, (and there was at least one troll), then I see on this thread, about H's.
In all fairness, most guys in that thread seemed to be less posers then some of the guys on this thread.
Seems like alot of them really wheel'd H's, and the ones that didn't admitted it.
I will say, I have had the opportunity to ride in an H1 and 2, and there is no comparison between the two. As for the H1. Awsome is all I have to say. Would it outwheel a Rubi 4dr. In most cases, without a doubt. As a matter of fact, in most terrains, outside of crawling rocks, the only thing that I could see coming close would be a tank. Even crawling rocks, the one I was in, did it well. But then let's look at the price. The one I rode in was a military convert.
It was a 6.5L turbo diesel wagon, and as I recall had a price tag of about 80K. That was in 2000. For that price I would have to have the $$$$$ I spent on my 94XJ new, the daughters 04 GC limited in 06, and the wifes 06 JK new, and even then I would still need an additional 8K or so. But again I say the H1 is awsome. Now the H2 I rode in was not worth the money IMO.
Here is a pic of the H2 I not only got to ride in but also able to drive for a couple of days.
and I will say it was nice and comfortable. Took it off roading a few times, but did not want to push my welcome, so nothing hard. I will say, it was everthing our JK is and more. Our JK is an "X" with the sport package, and actuially I have wheel'd this more times than ourJK. Our JK though, we bought for the wife, for a DD, trading in her 99XJ. But then again my friend paid about $52K for this thing.
The thing that really intrigues me is a few posts on the H thread that stated most Jeep owners are jealous.
By looking at alot of our threads, I now wonder could they be right. Or is it rather a Jeep thing, and irregardless, of how much bitch'in there is in our forum about all the quirks in the JK's we want to think there is no better off road vehicle?
C'mon guys. The Hummer's are a pretty stout vehicle.
One thing I did note. I saw less jeep bashing there, (and there was at least one troll), then I see on this thread, about H's.
In all fairness, most guys in that thread seemed to be less posers then some of the guys on this thread.
Seems like alot of them really wheel'd H's, and the ones that didn't admitted it.
I will say, I have had the opportunity to ride in an H1 and 2, and there is no comparison between the two. As for the H1. Awsome is all I have to say. Would it outwheel a Rubi 4dr. In most cases, without a doubt. As a matter of fact, in most terrains, outside of crawling rocks, the only thing that I could see coming close would be a tank. Even crawling rocks, the one I was in, did it well. But then let's look at the price. The one I rode in was a military convert.
It was a 6.5L turbo diesel wagon, and as I recall had a price tag of about 80K. That was in 2000. For that price I would have to have the $$$$$ I spent on my 94XJ new, the daughters 04 GC limited in 06, and the wifes 06 JK new, and even then I would still need an additional 8K or so. But again I say the H1 is awsome. Now the H2 I rode in was not worth the money IMO.
Here is a pic of the H2 I not only got to ride in but also able to drive for a couple of days.
and I will say it was nice and comfortable. Took it off roading a few times, but did not want to push my welcome, so nothing hard. I will say, it was everthing our JK is and more. Our JK is an "X" with the sport package, and actuially I have wheel'd this more times than ourJK. Our JK though, we bought for the wife, for a DD, trading in her 99XJ. But then again my friend paid about $52K for this thing.
The thing that really intrigues me is a few posts on the H thread that stated most Jeep owners are jealous.
By looking at alot of our threads, I now wonder could they be right. Or is it rather a Jeep thing, and irregardless, of how much bitch'in there is in our forum about all the quirks in the JK's we want to think there is no better off road vehicle?
C'mon guys. The Hummer's are a pretty stout vehicle.