Got Fence? Border in Jacumba, CA
02-12-2009, 09:11 PM
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Here is a recent article about the border fence. The cost is a bit under $10 mil per mile, but still pretty expensive.
U.S.-Mexico border fence comes at a hefty cost
Submitted by SHNS on Fri, 01/30/2009 - 14:38. By BRADY MCCOMBS, Arizona Daily Star western news
The fencing erected along the U.S.-Mexico border in the past three years by the U.S. Department of Homeland Security has cost more than expected, a government report shows.
The 140 miles of pedestrian fencing put up under the Secure Border Initiative before Oct. 31 of last year cost an average of $3.9 million per mile, a Government Accountability Office report released this week found. Costs ranged from $400,000 to $15.1 million a mile.
That per-mile average is more than the $3 million estimated by the Congressional Budget Office in August 2006 and much more than the $2.2 million estimate the Senate used during the immigration reform debate that same year. Even the highest estimate at the time, $3.2 million per mile from U.S. Rep. Duncan Hunter, R-Calif., ended up being too low.
Pedestrian fences, sometimes called primary fences, are 10-foot-or-higher steel barriers designed to slow down people on foot.
Project 28, the Boeing Co.-led virtual-fence test project anchored by nine camera and radar towers along a 28-mile stretch of border flanking Sasabe, Ariz., was delayed eight months by glitches and plagued with problems, a previous GAO report found. The second generation of virtual fences was scheduled to go up in late 2008, but the work was abruptly halted in August.
In reviewing Customs and Border Protection estimates of total contracts for fencing segments -- the GAO did not independently verify or validate the information -- the report offers a preliminary analysis of the actual costs of the biggest and fastest buildup of border barriers in U.S. history.
"It gives you an idea of what the fence is going to cost," said Richard Stana, director of homeland security issues at the Government Accountability Office.
Final costs are still pending.
The report only calculates the cost of the miles finished before Oct. 31 of last year.
Earlier this week, Homeland Security officials said the agency has brought the total miles of primary fencing and vehicle barriers along the Southwest border to 601 miles, 69 miles short of the goal of 670 miles set during the Bush administration. That means there are more than 200 miles of fencing put up whose costs have not been calculated.
The price tag of the fencing won't be available until all the segments are completed and contracts with private companies are closed out, Stana said.
Prior to the Secure Border Initiative, which was launched in November 2005, the federal government had constructed 78 miles of pedestrian fencing and 57 miles of vehicle barriers, the GAO report shows.
The most expensive miles came in San Diego, where construction teams had to fill in a canyon known as "Smuggler's Gulch" with 35,000 truckloads of dirt. That 3.5-mile project, which is scheduled to be completed this year, could end up costing as much $16.5 million per mile, the report shows.
Vehicle barriers, the report found, came in slightly less expensive. The 75 miles of vehicle barriers put up -- under chest-high steel barriers designed to stop cars and trucks but not people -- cost an average of $1 million per mile, with costs ranging from $200,000 to $1.8 million, the report said.
The Congressional Budget Office estimated it would cost $1.3 million per mile in the August 2006 document.
(E-mail Brady McCombs at bmccombs(at)azstarnet.com)
(Distributed by Scripps Howard News Service, www.scrippsnews.com.)
Must credit Arizona Daily Star
U.S.-Mexico border fence comes at a hefty cost
Submitted by SHNS on Fri, 01/30/2009 - 14:38. By BRADY MCCOMBS, Arizona Daily Star western news
The fencing erected along the U.S.-Mexico border in the past three years by the U.S. Department of Homeland Security has cost more than expected, a government report shows.
The 140 miles of pedestrian fencing put up under the Secure Border Initiative before Oct. 31 of last year cost an average of $3.9 million per mile, a Government Accountability Office report released this week found. Costs ranged from $400,000 to $15.1 million a mile.
That per-mile average is more than the $3 million estimated by the Congressional Budget Office in August 2006 and much more than the $2.2 million estimate the Senate used during the immigration reform debate that same year. Even the highest estimate at the time, $3.2 million per mile from U.S. Rep. Duncan Hunter, R-Calif., ended up being too low.
Pedestrian fences, sometimes called primary fences, are 10-foot-or-higher steel barriers designed to slow down people on foot.
Project 28, the Boeing Co.-led virtual-fence test project anchored by nine camera and radar towers along a 28-mile stretch of border flanking Sasabe, Ariz., was delayed eight months by glitches and plagued with problems, a previous GAO report found. The second generation of virtual fences was scheduled to go up in late 2008, but the work was abruptly halted in August.
In reviewing Customs and Border Protection estimates of total contracts for fencing segments -- the GAO did not independently verify or validate the information -- the report offers a preliminary analysis of the actual costs of the biggest and fastest buildup of border barriers in U.S. history.
"It gives you an idea of what the fence is going to cost," said Richard Stana, director of homeland security issues at the Government Accountability Office.
Final costs are still pending.
The report only calculates the cost of the miles finished before Oct. 31 of last year.
Earlier this week, Homeland Security officials said the agency has brought the total miles of primary fencing and vehicle barriers along the Southwest border to 601 miles, 69 miles short of the goal of 670 miles set during the Bush administration. That means there are more than 200 miles of fencing put up whose costs have not been calculated.
The price tag of the fencing won't be available until all the segments are completed and contracts with private companies are closed out, Stana said.
Prior to the Secure Border Initiative, which was launched in November 2005, the federal government had constructed 78 miles of pedestrian fencing and 57 miles of vehicle barriers, the GAO report shows.
The most expensive miles came in San Diego, where construction teams had to fill in a canyon known as "Smuggler's Gulch" with 35,000 truckloads of dirt. That 3.5-mile project, which is scheduled to be completed this year, could end up costing as much $16.5 million per mile, the report shows.
Vehicle barriers, the report found, came in slightly less expensive. The 75 miles of vehicle barriers put up -- under chest-high steel barriers designed to stop cars and trucks but not people -- cost an average of $1 million per mile, with costs ranging from $200,000 to $1.8 million, the report said.
The Congressional Budget Office estimated it would cost $1.3 million per mile in the August 2006 document.
(E-mail Brady McCombs at bmccombs(at)azstarnet.com)
(Distributed by Scripps Howard News Service, www.scrippsnews.com.)
Must credit Arizona Daily Star
02-14-2009, 05:01 AM
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They must plow it pretty often
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I am paying for it. In fact,...
EVERYONE who pays taxes is paying for it AND the consequence of NOT having had a real deterrent to illegal immigration via consumption of public services (including schools, hospitals (especially hospitals) police, fire, social services, govt assistance...)
If you build it, they won't come as easily.
EVERYONE who pays taxes is paying for it AND the consequence of NOT having had a real deterrent to illegal immigration via consumption of public services (including schools, hospitals (especially hospitals) police, fire, social services, govt assistance...)
If you build it, they won't come as easily.
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you would lucky to see a barb wire fence....much of the Canada/US border is open, absolutely nothing, no fence....still is border patrol, and government agencies that regulate all traffic crossing, but I am sure people sneak back and forth.