Mopar Heated Seat Install
This is one thing that I wished I had done when I did my own Katzkin leather seat install.....would have been easy doing this since I had to go through most of these steps installing the leather skins. Now if I do this, it will feel like I'm doing the same work twice. :(
I noticed everyone seems to be using the power from the cigarette lighter. I heard before that there is a better power source to tap into but forgot where it's at.
There's a problem with the Cigarette lighter power sources when you have remote start. The passenger side always stays on, so you have to worry about killing your battery if you forget to turn them off, and the drivers side is switched with the ignition...BUT....the problem is when you have the remote start, the driver's side ONLY turns on when you insert the key in to the ignition. So ideally....if you have remote start, you want the power source to turn on when you start your JK with the remote, so that the seats turn on and heat up when you start the vehicle with the remote.
Anyone know where a good place is that you can tap into power, that turns ON when you start the Jeep with the remote start and turns OFF when you turn the ignition off?
P.S. I used Wire Slip Ties also when doing my leather skins install. Much easier to work with, no need to buy hog clip pliers and much easier to find than hog clips.
I noticed everyone seems to be using the power from the cigarette lighter. I heard before that there is a better power source to tap into but forgot where it's at.
There's a problem with the Cigarette lighter power sources when you have remote start. The passenger side always stays on, so you have to worry about killing your battery if you forget to turn them off, and the drivers side is switched with the ignition...BUT....the problem is when you have the remote start, the driver's side ONLY turns on when you insert the key in to the ignition. So ideally....if you have remote start, you want the power source to turn on when you start your JK with the remote, so that the seats turn on and heat up when you start the vehicle with the remote.
Anyone know where a good place is that you can tap into power, that turns ON when you start the Jeep with the remote start and turns OFF when you turn the ignition off?
P.S. I used Wire Slip Ties also when doing my leather skins install. Much easier to work with, no need to buy hog clip pliers and much easier to find than hog clips.
Last edited by Rednroll; Sep 7, 2010 at 03:22 PM.
Ok....I had to go searching through the old JK forum where I used to hang out and here's how someone else got around this problem.
There has to be a better source somewhere, then going through the hassles of wiring a relay.
We ordered our Rubicon with leather heated seats (aftermarket, but installed by dealer), with the optional remote start kit (Mopar kit using stock key FOB, installed by dealer). The heated seat kit that was referenced above on ebay looks very much like the kit that was installed by the dealer. The main disadvantage with our setup is that the heated seats run off the cig lighter, which only turns on when the key is in the ignition. The heated seats do NOT work when the car is warming up with the remote start. This pissed my wife off a bit because her seats are "cold" when she gets in the Jeep, so I told her I'd fix it. Just a simple re-wiring exercise, right? HOLY &$%^^&*that was the biggest PITA!
In case anyone else has this same problem, here's how I "fixed" it:
I used a relay, tapping power from the constant +12V accessory outlet and triggering it from the lighting circuit in the dash (the lights turn on when the remote start is warming the car up, so power is now fed to the heated seats when the remote start is on). The output of this relay was coupled with the +12V power source from the cig lighter. I've never ever ever ever had to power one system (heated seats) from two sources (lighting circuit and cig lighter). Fortunately, the relay acts as an isolator to keep both systems from back feeding each other, while not overloading the lighting circuit. PHEW!
In case anyone else has this same problem, here's how I "fixed" it:
I used a relay, tapping power from the constant +12V accessory outlet and triggering it from the lighting circuit in the dash (the lights turn on when the remote start is warming the car up, so power is now fed to the heated seats when the remote start is on). The output of this relay was coupled with the +12V power source from the cig lighter. I've never ever ever ever had to power one system (heated seats) from two sources (lighting circuit and cig lighter). Fortunately, the relay acts as an isolator to keep both systems from back feeding each other, while not overloading the lighting circuit. PHEW!
Last edited by Rednroll; Sep 7, 2010 at 03:39 PM.
X2 on what theglobalguy is asking. Winters quickly approaching and my options are Coverkings or the heated seat kits. Leather is just brutal on the behind in the winter.
Well, I'm going to attempt the leather install this Sunday if the weather is nice. I'll take a few photos, and let you guys know how it goes. Luckily there's an upholstry shop right around the corner if things go bad!
So I just finished installing the Mopar heated seat kit in a 2010 JK with factory leather. As far as I can tell, there is absolutely no difference in the installation between cloth and leather seats; from the perspective of the install, they're both material held down with hog rings and plastic clips on the front and sides.
Great tips from this thread include the fact that there is NO need to remove the seats on the 4 door. The zip tie tip is invaluable...don't even bother to replace the hog rings. Just use the smallest zip ties you can find at the local hardware store.
The only issue that I had was that I was not able to re-fasten the plastic clip between the seat bottom and back. It seems cosmetic, but I'll probably run it by an upholstry shop sometime soon to see if they've got a tool to make it easier. I looked for the siding removal tool mentioned by someone else in this thread, but couldn't find one at either Home Depot or Lowes.
Great tips from this thread include the fact that there is NO need to remove the seats on the 4 door. The zip tie tip is invaluable...don't even bother to replace the hog rings. Just use the smallest zip ties you can find at the local hardware store.
The only issue that I had was that I was not able to re-fasten the plastic clip between the seat bottom and back. It seems cosmetic, but I'll probably run it by an upholstry shop sometime soon to see if they've got a tool to make it easier. I looked for the siding removal tool mentioned by someone else in this thread, but couldn't find one at either Home Depot or Lowes.
The only issue that I had was that I was not able to re-fasten the plastic clip between the seat bottom and back. It seems cosmetic, but I'll probably run it by an upholstry shop sometime soon to see if they've got a tool to make it easier. I looked for the siding removal tool mentioned by someone else in this thread, but couldn't find one at either Home Depot or Lowes.

It worked perfectly. I have leather also.
So how long does it take to get noticable heat? It seems to take a good 10 minutes or so before I really feel like it's doing a lot. Wondering if I shorted out a couple of the heating elements when I was trying to stuff them under the seat covers...
Henry
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