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Old Jan 22, 2014 | 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by planman
Seriously?

Hubcentric means nothing for a jeep wrangler wheel. It hasn't meant anything for JKs, TJs, YJs, etc.--at least since 1987.

This is almost like getting upset and wanting to hire a lawyer for false advertising if they changed the color of their center caps on their wheels and didn't update the pictures on their website.

If someone is that upset about something that means nothing, I'm sure that AEV would allow a person to return their unmounted wheels.

I'm also sure that the box the wheels come in tell the user that they are responsible for test fitting the wheels, and that they are not returnable after they are mounted with tires.

If hubcentric meant anything, don't you think there would be at least one other manufacturer who would make a hubcentric wheel for jeeps--since 1987 at least?
Actually Rugged Ridge and Fortec (same design, different name) makes a Hub-Centric wheel. Most companies don't make them because they are alot more to build this way bc they can't be massed produced and therefore less profit to be made. Uh, the difference between how a wheel is MADE and the color of the center cap is definitley night and day to compare.
There are many ppl that would agree, and have already agreed, that Hub-centric is better in design then lug-centric. Once again though, this isn't about that, it's about a company that has shown something about how their product is supposedly made that isn't correct. For many years. Anyway, I'm not going to go back and forth with you about the importance of advertising how a product is designed.
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Old Jan 22, 2014 | 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by trcColorado
I don't see how the OEM wheels are Lug-Centric because the Stock Hub is 71.50mm and the Stock (OEM) Rim is 71.58mm. So according to my math that is Hub-Centric.
I think a quick look at the self-centering cones of the OEM lug nuts should convince you otherwise...
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Old Jan 22, 2014 | 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by planman
Seriously?

Hubcentric means nothing for a jeep wrangler wheel. It hasn't meant anything for JKs, TJs, YJs, etc.--at least since 1987.

This is almost like getting upset and wanting to hire a lawyer for false advertising if they changed the color of their center caps on their wheels and didn't update the pictures on their website.

If someone is that upset about something that means nothing, I'm sure that AEV would allow a person to return their unmounted wheels.

I'm also sure that the box the wheels come in tell the user that they are responsible for test fitting the wheels, and that they are not returnable after they are mounted with tires.

If hubcentric meant anything, don't you think there would be at least one other manufacturer who would make a hubcentric wheel for jeeps--since 1987 at least?
If Hubcentric "means nothing" why was AEV tooting it on their website for years!?!?
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Old Jan 22, 2014 | 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Huntphreak
If Hubcentric "means nothing" why was AEV tooting it on their website for years!?!?

Agreed. They used it as an advantage over all the other wheels out there.
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Old Jan 22, 2014 | 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by trcColorado

Agreed. They used it as an advantage over all the other wheels out there.
Is it possible that they use it as a way to extract more $$ from the consumer for their pricey (albeit very nice) wheels?
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Old Jan 22, 2014 | 07:28 AM
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[QUOTE=planman;3816486]Seriously?

Hubcentric means nothing for a jeep wrangler wheel. It hasn't meant anything for JKs, TJs, YJs, etc.--at least since 1987.QUOTE]

Hard to believe that a member with over 750 posts can seriously make such a statement !?!?!? Thinking that you can go offroad with a wheel that is solely lug centric is being mis-informed.... Hub centric is everything and is responsible to keep the wheel centered on the hub. The lugs are there to keep the wheel snug against the hub !!!1

means nothing ?!?!? sheeesh !!!
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Old Jan 22, 2014 | 07:49 AM
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[QUOTE=Da10A;3816517]
Originally Posted by planman
Seriously?

Hubcentric means nothing for a jeep wrangler wheel. It hasn't meant anything for JKs, TJs, YJs, etc.--at least since 1987.QUOTE]

Hard to believe that a member with over 750 posts can seriously make such a statement !?!?!? Thinking that you can go offroad with a wheel that is solely lug centric is being mis-informed.... Hub centric is everything and is responsible to keep the wheel centered on the hub. The lugs are there to keep the wheel snug against the hub !!!1

means nothing ?!?!? sheeesh !!!
Agreed. This is from a vendor of AEV Wheels in the description......"Hub-centric mounting takes the load off of your studs and places it squarely in the hub where it belongs. The result is a better ride and longer lasting bearings."
Yeah......That's what I thought I was buying.
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Old Jan 22, 2014 | 07:52 AM
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Da10a,

I have more than 750 posts. If the narcissistic former owner of this forum hadn't deleted them, if have about 6,000 posts here.

My threads on Diagnosing Death Wobble have over 100,000 views on multiple jeep forums. My YouTube videos on the subject have a combined over 100,000 views.

I was asked to be a Forum Tech Advisor here.

I currently own 6 jeeps, a competition rock buggy, and an off road park.

AEV making hubcentric jeep wheels was gimmicky in the first place.

You don't need a "belt and suspenders" on a JK. The "belt" (conical lug nuts) is sufficient.

Please point to all the "dirty laundry" threads on jeepforum, jkowners, jk-forum, jeepfreaks, wranglerforum, pirate4x4, etc. of all the hoards of jeep owners that sheared off studs from hubs with wheels running 37" or smaller tires, or who had vibration problems from non-hubcentric wheels that were properly torqued.
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Old Jan 22, 2014 | 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by 7kings
I think a quick look at the self-centering cones of the OEM lug nuts should convince you otherwise...
I had to go and look and my 14 jkur rims are hub centric and lug centric lol. My 13 steelies were too. Not sure I have seen too many lug nuts that were not coned to some degree.
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Old Jan 22, 2014 | 08:42 AM
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[QUOTE=Da10A;3816517]
Originally Posted by planman
Seriously?

Hubcentric means nothing for a jeep wrangler wheel. It hasn't meant anything for JKs, TJs, YJs, etc.--at least since 1987.QUOTE]

Hard to believe that a member with over 750 posts can seriously make such a statement !?!?!? Thinking that you can go offroad with a wheel that is solely lug centric is being mis-informed.... Hub centric is everything and is responsible to keep the wheel centered on the hub. The lugs are there to keep the wheel snug against the hub !!!1

means nothing ?!?!? sheeesh !!!
Are you really evaluating a person's expertise based on the amount of posts he's made on an internet forum?

The hub is responsible for centering a wheel ONLY on a hub-centric wheel. For a lug-centric wheel, the tapered lug nuts perform the task of centering the wheel. Neither method is right or wrong, and I'd be willing to bet you don't personally know a single person who has had a structural failure because of a lug-centric design.

That being said, I would be upset knowing that I spent the money that AEV asks for their wheels and didn't get what was advertised.
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