x-2... the cam bolts do not allow for much adjusting. ~2 degrees

 

I had to play with the castor a good bit for the double carden driveshaft not to have vibes in the front, also a slight adjustment to correct the right hand pull. Now if you have a stock front ds, not as much of a concern, but with a double carden, yes , fine tuning is desired.

 

Isnt AEV coming out with control arms?

 

The 3" lift clears 35" tires no problem. The only thing i added was upper CA's

 

Yes. I heard it was because of the "online bs" causing customers to think they needed them; not because AEV recommends them. Obviously, not everyone has the same set up so those with different drive lines and such would need adjustment greater than the cam bolt. I am still on the fence about the cam bolt, but plan on trying to use it first before getting adjustable arms (yes I know about the issue of having to weld up the holes).

I wish AEV was not always back ordered on EVERYTHING... But IMO, they have the best desgined stuff, so I conitnue to wait.

 

I hardly think a company would go though the expense and trouble of developing control arms just because of "online bs". If they thought there was no room for improvement in their kit they wouldn't be making them. Also, they're losing out on a product they could be selling instead of having to refer to another company. They just ended up being late to the game on adj. ca's.

 

The issue of adjustment aside, factory lowers bend A LOT easier the a good after market arm. I bent a fr and rear lower on my first two wheeling trips with the jk. The front was a hard drop, but the rear wasn't and it still bent. I've dropped the jeep even harder on my clayton front lowers and they are still perfect. So internet bs isn't the only reason to run an aftermarket arm.....

 

AEV is only coming out with front uppers for the JK. They will not address the issue you raise here.

And yes, from an abuse standpoint, based on my research, you will not find a stonger set of arms than Clayton. Those are stout.

 

Unfortunately, all manufactures make products based on their consumers wants and desires and in this case, AEV missed the mark by not offering adj arms from the beginning. Based on what I heard, AEV, or at least some there, felt the consumers' want was based on "online bs".

As a generallization, it could be the best product available, but if the buyer wants something else, the offered product will be a financial failure. With todays marketing, products do not need to be the best to be the best selling.

Manufacturers make a lot of things that will make them money even though it does not make something "better" for the average consumer. Think about the Sahara or some of the other shiney accessories that Mopar offers. Few on this website would think these products make the jeep better, but it is what many owners will buy.

I am not saying there is no need for adj control arms. But not everyone buying them to go with the AEV lift needs them.

 

The clayton's definitely are tanks, but most aftermarket arms will handle abuse better then the stockers. And of course it all depends on how you use your jeep. For me stronger arms are a must since I mostly rock crawl. Someone who mostly sees mud or sand or the mall might not need then.