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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by shrockworks
Holy conflicting info Batman. Here are a couple pics of my 07 JK Rubi U-joints. Looks like there is a half circ clip on the inside....




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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by WranglerRubicon
ok got ya but it still has been a problem with the u-joints loosing caps


Yes it has, I broke one when the Jeep was New and stock, I upgraded the Ujoints and installed them myself, since then I have only ever broken one more and I replace them anually (every single U-joint including the driveshafts), the trick is to check them (and the rest of your rig) everytime you go wheeling, before and after...If you can do that you will save yourself from the headaches, Wheeling for me; 2days on the trail and 5 days of maintenance, it'a a seven day hobby
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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by WranglerRubicon
Is it 2 door or 4 door? 4 door
what other modification have you made? no modification Everything is stock
What was the weather like? 8-10 inches of snow
What gear where you in? 2nd
What 4x4 gear (2 hi, 4 hi, 4 low) 4low
What mode of ESP did you have on? ESP OFF
What type of terrian? Snowy covered trail
Would you say the only thing that "stopped" the wheel would prob. be the ESP "Virtual Track Lock?"

Was it something like this?
the front wheels where spinning the "ESP" trac lock came on - then the left spun - then the right spun a few times back and forth

Then Bam?

Also Auto or Stick?
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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by rubyred
Would you say the only thing that "stopped" the wheel would prob. be the ESP "Virtual Track Lock?"

Was it something like this?
the front wheels where spinning the "ESP" trac lock came on - then the left spun - then the right spun a few times back and forth

Then Bam?

Also Auto or Stick?
it's a stick no I had the ESP off if you hold the traction control button down for 10 sec in low range it shuts the ESP off
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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by WranglerRubicon
it's a stick no I had the ESP off if you hold the traction control button down for 10 sec in low range it shuts the ESP off
The TSC section on page 106 reads

"TCS (Traction Control System)
This system monitors the amount of wheel spin of each of
the driven wheels. If wheel spin is detected, brake
pressure is applied to the slipping wheel(s) to provide
enhanced acceleration and stability. A feature of the TCS
system functions similar to a limited slip differential and
controls the wheel spin across a driven axle. If one wheel
on a driven axle is spinning faster than the other, the
system will apply the brake of the spinning wheel. This
will allow more engine torque to be applied to the wheel
that is not spinning. This feature remains active even if
TCS and ESP are in either the “Partial Off” or “Full Off”
modes. Refer to “ESP (Electronic Stability Program)” in
this section."

Unless I missed something I believe in 4 low TCS is always on as per the 2nd to last paragraph
"This feature remains active even if
TCS and ESP are in either the “Partial Off” or “Full Off”
modes.""

This seems to be the connecting thread from all the breaks I have seen personally. Everyone was in 4-Low Range and everyone said the TCS went back and forth a few times (between wheels) then it broke.

If we can turn it 100% off let me know. After the mutiple failures in the pass 2 weeks I would like to find a way to turn it 100% off!
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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by rubyred;
...... mutiple failures in the pass 2 weeks I would like to find a way to turn it 100% off!
I thought that when it is in Full off that the traction control and Electronic Stability Program are off

But now I am unsure
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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 01:10 PM
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Can anyone post a picture of the tac welds you speak of.
Thanks in advance.
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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 06:10 PM
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Wrangler Rubicon,

I know you posted a picture of stub shaft carnage (taken at 3 AM if your camera clock is right - long night I bet), but is it from an 07 rubi dana 44 front axle or not? You never did say for sure whether you have a rubicon or what year it is. Much can be assumed since you are talking about ESP and all, but you have our attention with this failure and we really, really would like the complete story behind it - and some assurance that our assumptions are correct. The knuckle in the pic you posted looks 10 years old (check out the bolts) and somewhat different from the other pics that are positively an 07 d44. My rubi has been driven all winter in crappy mag-chloride and salted roads and was manufactured in Sep 06. It has not rusted like your picture shows - not even close. My '99 TJ looked better. You also never told us what you were doing. From the looks of things you were doing it fast, whatever it was. C'mon man, give us the whole story -- please?

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Old Feb 28, 2007 | 05:05 AM
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Originally Posted by rubyred
The TSC section on page 106 reads

"TCS (Traction Control System)
This system monitors the amount of wheel spin of each of
the driven wheels. If wheel spin is detected, brake
pressure is applied to the slipping wheel(s) to provide
enhanced acceleration and stability. A feature of the TCS
system functions similar to a limited slip differential and
controls the wheel spin across a driven axle. If one wheel
on a driven axle is spinning faster than the other, the
system will apply the brake of the spinning wheel. This
will allow more engine torque to be applied to the wheel
that is not spinning. This feature remains active even if
TCS and ESP are in either the “Partial Off” or “Full Off”
modes. Refer to “ESP (Electronic Stability Program)” in
this section."

Unless I missed something I believe in 4 low TCS is always on as per the 2nd to last paragraph
"This feature remains active even if
TCS and ESP are in either the “Partial Off” or “Full Off”
modes.""

This seems to be the connecting thread from all the breaks I have seen personally. Everyone was in 4-Low Range and everyone said the TCS went back and forth a few times (between wheels) then it broke.

If we can turn it 100% off let me know. After the mutiple failures in the pass 2 weeks I would like to find a way to turn it 100% off!
......... ................
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Old Feb 28, 2007 | 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by jkrubi
Wrangler Rubicon,

I know you posted a picture of stub shaft carnage (taken at 3 AM if your camera clock is right - long night I bet), but is it from an 07 rubi dana 44 front axle or not? You never did say for sure whether you have a rubicon or what year it is. Much can be assumed since you are talking about ESP and all, but you have our attention with this failure and we really, really would like the complete story behind it - and some assurance that our assumptions are correct. The knuckle in the pic you posted looks 10 years old (check out the bolts) and somewhat different from the other pics that are positively an 07 d44. My rubi has been driven all winter in crappy mag-chloride and salted roads and was manufactured in Sep 06. It has not rusted like your picture shows - not even close. My '99 TJ looked better. You also never told us what you were doing. From the looks of things you were doing it fast, whatever it was. C'mon man, give us the whole story -- please?

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Ya it is a 07 Unlimited Rubicon I drive heavely salted roads all the time the rust is fast. I was out with a group of jeep's for a run and we were in about 8-10 inches of snow I was clombing a small grade when I spun out (Too Slow) Then I backed up went for it again and went 5 feet still on level ground and bam there goes the U-Joint. That's my story not a very interesting one but everyone wants to hear it.
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