Do I really need 513's?
if I had known about the planman poll there would have been another person on the it was worth it side! I had 4.10s and auto. Went to 5.13s. It made my 35" nitto mud grappers feel like stockers. it was great! I highly reccomend a regear with a tire increase. Also your driveline will work less hard getting you moving and stuff. Tranny and torque converter and stuff will likely last longer. Regear is expensive but totally worth it!
Yep..........had 3.73 and auto with 35inch tires.......regeared to 4.88 and I wish I would have went with the 5.13's. I will say it's much better to drive than the 3.73's but running the 4.88 gears at 70mph my rpms are still on the low side, turning about 2350rpms.
Oh well
JJ
Oh well

JJ
Yep..........had 3.73 and auto with 35inch tires.......regeared to 4.88 and I wish I would have went with the 5.13's. I will say it's much better to drive than the 3.73's but running the 4.88 gears at 70mph my rpms are still on the low side, turning about 2350rpms.
Oh well
JJ
Oh well

JJ
I was also wondering if anybody knows what rpm's 5.13's with overdrive ON will be turning at 70mph? How would it be if you had to tow something with 5.13's, overdrive off and running on the highway? Lots of questions, I know!
Dog Doc, I have a manual so I can't answer most of your questions, but will say that your RPM question is answered in The Chart:

These little engines don't mind RPM. I've been running 32" tires and 5.13's with a manual for months. However, I don't do much Interstate and my 35's will be here Wednesday.

These little engines don't mind RPM. I've been running 32" tires and 5.13's with a manual for months. However, I don't do much Interstate and my 35's will be here Wednesday.
So do you still notice the tranny down shifting alot on the highway? I am getting ready to pull the trigger on gears and debating 4.88's vs 5.13's as well. I am only running 33's now but eventually will go with 35's.
I was also wondering if anybody knows what rpm's 5.13's with overdrive ON will be turning at 70mph? How would it be if you had to tow something with 5.13's, overdrive off and running on the highway? Lots of questions, I know!
I was also wondering if anybody knows what rpm's 5.13's with overdrive ON will be turning at 70mph? How would it be if you had to tow something with 5.13's, overdrive off and running on the highway? Lots of questions, I know!
Here are some numbers from me looking at the dash:
Auto, 5.13's, 32" tires (295/75/16 terra's - mfg says 33.27", actual was 32")
MPH O/D off O/D on
40 - 2150
45 - 2500
50 - 2700
55 - 3000
60 - 3250 - 2200
65 - 3500 - 2400
70 - 3800 - 2600
So, use the chart to get your rpm at 70. Then divide by .69 to get the OD off numbers.
Do I really need 513's?
Does it really make that much of a difference in the power for around the town driving.
That said, it is the single biggest performance improvement you can make. Ripp even suggests re-gearing before spending money on their s/c's. That right there says a lot...
Last edited by nthinuf; Oct 18, 2010 at 10:02 AM.
Remember to measure the tires and use the 'actual' heights, not the mfg's listed height!!!
Here are some numbers from me looking at the dash:
Auto, 5.13's, 32" tires (295/75/16 terra's - mfg says 33.27", actual was 32")
MPH O/D off O/D on
40 - 2150
45 - 2500
50 - 2700
55 - 3000
60 - 3250 - 2200
65 - 3500 - 2400
70 - 3800 - 2600
So, use the chart to get your rpm at 70. Then divide by .69 to get the OD off numbers.
Need? Of course not.
Freeway is where you'll notice the difference the most. Around town only?? Just turn OD-Off and you can live with it.
That said, it is the single biggest performance improvement you can make. Ripp even suggests re-gearing before spending money on their s/c's. That right there says a lot...
Here are some numbers from me looking at the dash:
Auto, 5.13's, 32" tires (295/75/16 terra's - mfg says 33.27", actual was 32")
MPH O/D off O/D on
40 - 2150
45 - 2500
50 - 2700
55 - 3000
60 - 3250 - 2200
65 - 3500 - 2400
70 - 3800 - 2600
So, use the chart to get your rpm at 70. Then divide by .69 to get the OD off numbers.
Need? Of course not.
Freeway is where you'll notice the difference the most. Around town only?? Just turn OD-Off and you can live with it.
That said, it is the single biggest performance improvement you can make. Ripp even suggests re-gearing before spending money on their s/c's. That right there says a lot...
Based upon the information you provided it sure looks like towing something with 5.13's and overdrive off on the highway may be pretty hard on the jeep!
Doc,
If you have an auto go with the 5.13's.............I am running Nitto Trail Grapplers 295x70 r18 with the 4.88's and it's okay.... the Nitto site says they are 34.5 inches in diameter, but when I actually measured they are closer to 34.25....1/4 inch difference. This being said most of the 35 inch tires run closer to 34 inches......... the chart posted on here is right on the mark use that to choose your gears.......and even though I wish I would have went with the 5.13's in Florida there's not to many hills so the 4.88's work okay and there's no problem with the tranny searching for gears.
Hope this helps
JJ
If you have an auto go with the 5.13's.............I am running Nitto Trail Grapplers 295x70 r18 with the 4.88's and it's okay.... the Nitto site says they are 34.5 inches in diameter, but when I actually measured they are closer to 34.25....1/4 inch difference. This being said most of the 35 inch tires run closer to 34 inches......... the chart posted on here is right on the mark use that to choose your gears.......and even though I wish I would have went with the 5.13's in Florida there's not to many hills so the 4.88's work okay and there's no problem with the tranny searching for gears.
Hope this helps
JJ





