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does a stock rim have offset???

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Old Sep 15, 2009 | 08:41 AM
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Yes that makes sense. So if I do not go bigger in tire size, I can basically only run stock backspacing?
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Old Sep 15, 2009 | 08:46 AM
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yes the only reason people are changing the back spacing is because the bigger tires contact the control arms or frame when turning so folks space the wheel out more. if you run the exact same tires size you can use stock BS
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Old Sep 15, 2009 | 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by armandov99
Backspacing and offset measure the same thing: the location on the mounting flange of the wheel. They differ in that backspacing measures the distance to the mounting flange from the BACKSIDE face of the wheel, while offset measures the location of the mounting flange to the CENTERLINE of the wheel. The key is that the backspacing does not depend on the width of the wheel, but the offset depends on the width of the wheel (since that moves the centerline).

So if you know the backspacing you know exactly how much it'll stick out. If you only know offset, you also need to know the width of the wheel to know how much it'll stick out.

In the end, you only need to know EITHER - not both - since they measure the same thing.

Does that make sense?
What he said. Most of the wheels I have looked at list backspacing instead of offset. However, when you find wheels that list offset instead you use the calculator. The backspacing you need is a function of how wide of a tire you want to run.

If you use lug centric wheels on a JK that could make it ride like crap. Personally, I used hub centric wheel spacers to get the backspacing of my factory wheels to 4.75" and it rides better than stock. There are several wheels out there that are designed to be hub centric on JKs. If wheel spacers are not an option, I would choose one of those hub centric wheels first.
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Old Sep 15, 2009 | 08:53 AM
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Right but my question is all the wheels I want to run are not stock backspace but I don't want bigger tires. Is this going to make my ride bad like the steel proconps did? Or was that just because they are heavy steel and were an extreme backspace (4.5)
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Old Sep 15, 2009 | 08:54 AM
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You don't HAVE to only use stock backspacing. If you want to move your wheel out for any reason (even just for looks) you can do so by either reducing the offset or reducing the backspacing. There's nothing wrong with that, it's what people do when they use wheel spacers. Though you do change the scrub radius, I haven't heard of people having an issue because of it.
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Old Sep 15, 2009 | 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Hellbound13
Right but my question is all the wheels I want to run are not stock backspace but I don't want bigger tires. Is this going to make my ride bad like the steel proconps did? Or was that just because they are heavy steel and were an extreme backspace (4.5)
I think you may have just had bad luck with your last tire rim combo
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Old Sep 15, 2009 | 09:00 AM
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Sorry for the confusion. I am running stock tires on stock wheels with wheel spacers (Until I have enough cash for my lift and bigger tires). When I added wheel spacers my JK actualy feels more stable in corners and rides a little smother than before. Adding backspacing is not the problem.

Correct me if I am wrong folks but I think the real problem was that the Procomps were lug centric not hub centric.
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Old Sep 15, 2009 | 09:01 AM
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So when people say 35" tires won't rub with a wheel of a certain backspacing, they're technically not correct, right? A 35x10.5 might not rub, but a 35x14.5 quite possibly would.

Man, every time I decide on my new tires and wheels I change my mind again.
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Old Sep 15, 2009 | 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by porters
Sorry for the confusion. I am running stock tires on stock wheels with wheel spacers (Until I have enough cash for my lift and bigger tires). When I added wheel spacers my JK actualy feels more stable in corners and rides a little smother than before. Adding backspacing is not the problem.

Correct me if I am wrong folks but I think the real problem was that the Procomps were lug centric not hub centric.
good to know, i think i'm going to get 4.75 back spacing that way i have the option of adding spacers to get 4.5, 4.25, 4.0 etc. if i start with say 4.0 i cant move the wheel in. this site really makes you think before you shoot
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Old Sep 15, 2009 | 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by H315M4N
So when people say 35" tires won't rub with a wheel of a certain backspacing, they're technically not correct, right? A 35x10.5 might not rub, but a 35x14.5 quite possibly would.

Man, every time I decide on my new tires and wheels I change my mind again.
If your stock tires are 10" wide and 32" tall and you want to run tires that are 12.5 " wide and 32" tall, then you are adding 1.25" of tire width on each side of the tire. Without adjusting backspacing the tire will rub. If you add a 1.25" wheel spacer you moved the wheel out the same amount that was added to the tire in width so you effectively solved the problem with a few exceptions.

It's the exceptions that make this complicated.
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