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Old Jan 8, 2012 | 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Ryanc
The debate continues. A driveshaft is a driveshaft. A cylindrical piece of balanced metal. The shafts are overall the same. If you have the parts and a welder anyone can make one, that is if you can balance it. THe u joints need to be good ones.
couldn't have said it better myself. over the years, only 2 u-joints have proven themselves to be what i would run, spicer and neapco, and for the record, neither are sponsors of mine.

Originally Posted by jeep2007
Really. I have a copy of the letter you were sent from Woods and it clearly outlines what companies make his joints including Spicer, Neapco and Rockford.
careful now, you're starting to sound like someone who thinks he knows all the facts when he can barley quote what he's been sold with any accuracy.

I also use products that I feel are the best I value, reliability and serve my needs. Not because Billy Bob says he does.
yeah, you go with that "feeling". i'm sure indiana has a ton of hardcore trails that would put your products to the test too. out where i'm at, we just have malls to crawl and i only get to do that 2-3 times a month. needless to say, billy bob and i wouldn't have a clue as to what we're talking about.

It's a fact if anyone on this forum uses or mentions any vendor other then a sponsor, its just not a good enough part. Even if your best sponsors sell that product.
boy, you sure are full of truthful "facts". perhaps people should just take your word for it just because you said it.

Funny, you sent Woody an email on Feb 3, 2011 telling him " you make really good driveshafts and have good customer service and what you have can benefit our members". Only after he declined being a sponsor did you then blast his shafts. As you do with any non- sponsor.
i find it so amusing how you can self-righteouly accuse people of "repeating what they read not what they know" and yet, you are the first to do just that. you know none of the facts, just what you were sold by a company that you're clearly a fanboy of and, try to push it off as truth. but hey, everyone should listen to and believe what you say because you are the man with all the facts

I state the truth and this by no means takes away from Coast or JE Reel as they are excellent shafts too.Each Jeeper just has the right to be given the correct information.
you're absolutely right. i can only share what i've seen. you on the other hand have no experience or actual knowledge of anything and yet, you try to push off the things you've been sold as somehow being fact and truth.

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Old Jan 8, 2012 | 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by 616fun
I've posted this before, but Spicer joints are now primarily manufactured in Mexico and India. 'Made in the USA' is a great thing that they've been able to keep as a perception. Everyone who touts their 'made in the USA' message further supports this myth. Country of origin has zero to do with quality of product. Process of forging or casting, quality of materials, and overall manufacturing QA is where the rubber meets the road. I have been involved in manufacturing offshore for years as a business and have seen this first hand.

So far I've been impressed with Tom's product. I run it because Tom has been the defacto standard in offroading for years. You don't get that name by producing crap.
for the record, i never said anything about country of origin, only that spicer and neapco were quality u-joints. spicer u-joints used to be made in the USA and neapco u-joints definitely still are and that's a fact. but really, that's a moot point. fact of the matter is, i have seen them work well on the trail and have seen another u-joint that a popular manufacturer likes to use fail time and time again. as far as "defacto standars" go, i'm not sure where you got that from but, i do appreciate the laugh.
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Old Jan 8, 2012 | 06:43 AM
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You two need your own thread to argue in
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Old Jan 8, 2012 | 06:54 AM
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I ate a grilled cheese sandwich for lunch.
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Old Jan 8, 2012 | 07:02 AM
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I've been considering driveshafts, sleeves and gussets and axle shafts ever since going up to 37's and found this thread but it just made me more weary of selecting a driveshaft.

So...... which shaft with good quality U-joints would be a good one to choose?

I don't mind paying extra if it means paying it once.

Little nervous now to spend good money on lesser products..... these aren't cheap.

I would like to make an informed decision based on real world experienced wheelers who have run the products and have given feedback... not what the manufacturer says their product is..... sometimes those are two different things
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Old Jan 8, 2012 | 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by scorpion king
I've been considering driveshafts, sleeves and gussets and axle shafts ever since going up to 37's and found this thread but it just made me more weary of selecting a driveshaft.

So...... which shaft with good quality U-joints would be a good one to choose?

I don't mind paying extra if it means paying it once.

Little nervous now to spend good money on lesser products..... these aren't cheap.

I would like to make an informed decision based on real world experienced wheelers who have run the products and have given feedback... not what the manufacturer says their product is..... sometimes those are two different things
My advice would be to weigh all of the options, call the vendors, discuss their product and your use of their product. Advice on the Internet is a double edged sword. Some is good, some is bad. Some is driven by personal gain.

Only you can determine which shaft is good for you.
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Old Jan 8, 2012 | 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by scorpion king
I've been considering driveshafts, sleeves and gussets and axle shafts ever since going up to 37's and found this thread but it just made me more weary of selecting a driveshaft.

So...... which shaft with good quality U-joints would be a good one to choose?

I don't mind paying extra if it means paying it once.

Little nervous now to spend good money on lesser products..... these aren't cheap.

I would like to make an informed decision based on real world experienced wheelers who have run the products and have given feedback... not what the manufacturer says their product is..... sometimes those are two different things
When I regeared and sleeved/gusseted I also went ahead and upgraded my driveshaft to a Coast 1310. I've wheeled mine pretty often in Colorado and havent had any problems since. Still need to get a rear Coast driveshaft though but the rears arent much of a concern on a 4 door. I know JE Reel and Tom Woods are the other popular brands.
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Old Jan 8, 2012 | 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by scorpion king
I've been considering driveshafts, sleeves and gussets and axle shafts ever since going up to 37's and found this thread but it just made me more weary of selecting a driveshaft.

So...... which shaft with good quality U-joints would be a good one to choose?

I don't mind paying extra if it means paying it once.

Little nervous now to spend good money on lesser products..... these aren't cheap.

I would like to make an informed decision based on real world experienced wheelers who have run the products and have given feedback... not what the manufacturer says their product is..... sometimes those are two different things
as ryanc pointed out, so long as it's balanced well and made to work on a JK, a drive shaft is pretty much a drive shaft. the only real difference is in the u-joints used and regardless of who you choose to buy from, simply request that spicer or neapco u-joints are used. it really is that simple. i prefer coast and je reel but only because they use spicer and neapco joints right out of the box and without having to make them upgrades.

Originally Posted by 616fun
My advice would be to weigh all of the options, call the vendors, discuss their product and your use of their product. Advice on the Internet is a double edged sword. Some is good, some is bad. Some is driven by personal gain.

Only you can determine which shaft is good for you.
LOL!! yeah, vendors are all honest people who aren't driven by personal gain and we should all just believe what they have to say just because they said so. you fanboys are so good about following talking points.

as mentioned, driveshafts are for the most part, driveshafts. the only difference is in the u-joint used. i am not sponsored by spicer or neapco or hell, by anyone at this point and time and, i have nothing to gain by suggesting that you make sure to have them installed on WHATEVER driveshaft you choose to buy. As far as personal gain goes, I do have to wonder how much profit a vendor can line his wallet with when they sell a part to their customers, at the same price as their competitors but, made with cheaper parts.

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Old Jan 8, 2012 | 07:38 AM
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All good to know thanks fellas. Hope it's that simple indeed Yup

I need to get the sleeves and gussets first but know the front driveshaft and front axle shafts will be next on the "list"

Man I need to get a second job for this Jeep modding habit I seemed to have developed (ask my wife lol)

Thanks again
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Old Jan 8, 2012 | 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by wayoflife

i find it so amusing how you can self-righteouly accuse people of "repeating what they read not what they know" and yet, you are the first to do just that. you know none of the facts, just what you were sold by a company that you're clearly a fanboy of and, try to push it off as truth. but hey, everyone should listen to and believe what you say because you are the man with all the facts
so, did you in fact ask tom woods to be a sponsoring vendor here? and did he decline? your reply was a good example of a non answer. :(
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