Machster50

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HEy folks:

Given the harsh winter climate we have in this corner of the planet and the salt mines that are spread over our highways, I decided to invest in this product, available at Canadian Tire (in Canada, d-oh), or Crappy Tire as we affectionatley call them (but a really cool store by canadian standards anyway), and were on sale last week at $100 off, or $299 cdn, for the suv model gizmo .

It's called "CounterAct" and the product can be viewed at www.counteractrust.com

If anyone has tried this product, feel free to join the conversation, but as I see it, it's a dirt cheap investment if this works only half as good as they claim.

Essentially, the product uses 12V DC and converts it to high V, low amperage power that is sent via wires and 2 contacts, one in front, other in back (suv model) . The theory is that the current significantly prevents the oxidation process, ie oxygen contacting with iron. The pictures even show a significant reduction in rusting in areas like brake drums or rotors... places no amount of undercoating will ever / could ever be used.

Just looking to see if there is any experience out there with this product.

If there is interest, I will take pictures and post my attempt at the installation process...

Cheers!



Cheers!

Dean

Iron oxidation is a constant, ongoing process. I don't think the transient application of a current does anything to slow the process. Sounds like a gimmick. I'm no chemist/physicist, but I took tons of chemistry classes and labs in my undergrad and this doesn't sound right to me.

Does anyone else know objectively?

PBR_Stitch

Military ships use a (very vaguely) similar system to reduce the rusting on their hulls. That system does actually work, but it is a major energy hog.

Ron

chris269

I work for a pipeline company and we induce a current on our pipeline to prevent corrosion. We have sacrificial anode beds that deteriate over time just like a battery deteriates. So instead of our pipeline coroding and going back to iron ore our sacrificial anode beds do. It's hard to explain the system intirely but i don't quite understand how something that is not grounded to the earth (4 rubber tires) could do this. I understand a ship doing because it is grounded through all of that water. I couldn't give you a 100% answer but it sounds fishy to me.

Egmont

Ships are more my line and I also can't understand on how it works on a truck. On ships/boats it is actually called a cathode protection system. What it does is that it protects the hull and fittings from galvanic, eddy currents and so on by inducing an opposing electric current into the hull. This is accomplished by using battery voltage or going the passive way by connecting zinc anodes to the system, obviously it only works when submerged in salt water and has no effect in fresh water.

chris269

If this really worked then auto manufacturers would probobly already be installing them.

Dean

LOL!!

Sounds like I stand corrected. Won't be the last time!

Archer

"electrostatic corrosion control by capacitive coupling"

"minimizing corrosion"

"it runs off the 12V from the vehicle battery drawing less current than a typical digital clock."


Together these three components serve to induce a measured and specific negative electrostatic surface charge on the metal surface being protected (your vehicle's body for instance) thus capacitive coupling treats the metal body as if it were the negative half of a capacitor. This negative surface charge serves to interfere with the normal electrochemical corrosion processes that create corrosion on metals.

Went to the web site to do some reading. the above is what I found. doesn't seem to draw alot of power. I think the claim of "Rust Proofing" is a bit misleading. Everything I have ever been taught is corrosion starts the day the metal was made. however saying that it slows down the process would be safe. from what i read and know (no scientist however) it seems to use a negative charge to repel stuff from sticking to the vehicles thus if mud and water are slow to adhear then slow to rust. Or maybe I am just in my own reality and would appreciate a visit from ya'll every now and again

chris269

When was the last time you got rid of a car because it rusted away. It would be a great selling point.

Machster50

well, i'll install it this weekend and post a few pics - what the hell, for $250 bucks, I plan on keeping this one (jeep) for the long haul, hence the chance i'm taking. It might take me 5 years before I can tell if it works or not!
I trust this more than oiling or undercoating anyway...

Here's another site I found on the subject...

http://www.counteractcpr.com/CounterAct%20on%20TV.htm