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Old Oct 15, 2009 | 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by wayoflife
not very hard at all. wheel it hard enough and it will bend a lot. before we installed a set of gussets on our old dana 44 (no sleeves), we had as much as 2° of camber on our passenger side wheel and 1.5° on the driver side. after installing the gussets and running 37's and wheeling the piss out of our JK, we saw NO additional camber.
After about 8k with 37" on I too now have OVER 2° on the passenger side and just under 1.5° on the drivers side. Why would the passenger side allow for more then the drivers side? There is alot more tube on the passenger side. I now have EVO gussets and hope to see no additional camber but wonder if some bending of the tube will still happen?
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Old Oct 15, 2009 | 04:15 PM
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if your that worried about the tube, sleeve them...
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Old Oct 15, 2009 | 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Piginajeep
if your that worried about the tube, sleeve them...
MONEY - doesn't make sense to sleeve them until I can regear too. I know, I know - "WHAT 37" on 4.10s - maddness!!"

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So yea doing what is most cost effective and vehicle effective right now I think is on alot of guys minds and worth discussing. If more guys running larger tires input their camber measurement and we see a pattern that the passenger side has more negative camber then the drivers I think we could say the sleeve maybe more important then the gussets but sure both are a good idea.
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Old Oct 15, 2009 | 04:56 PM
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I had the evo's installed before any mods were done. I'm currently running 37's and have not had issues with the C's bending.

I'm not concerned about the tubes. we beat the hell out of ours Jeeps in Moab and my front axle is fine...

i was playing catch up with Northridge4x4.... this was after his hemi build I bottomed out very hard, and nothing was damaged.
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Old Oct 15, 2009 | 05:07 PM
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I'd still challenge anyone to throw up camber readings or at least take a level to your wheels and see if you find more camber on the passenger side. Thats all.
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Old Oct 15, 2009 | 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeepnboy
Based on the different responses to this same question, I have come to the conclusion that I will install the aev lift and then have Offroad install the C Gussets; I suspect they have to modify the brackets slightly to accomodate the AEV brackets. I am afraid if I did things in the other order, the AEV bracket would no longer be a simple bolt on application.
Same here. I am going to have Screamin Lizard install the lift then do the C gussets and sleeve the tube immediately afterwards.
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Old Oct 15, 2009 | 06:34 PM
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I had no idea this thread would get this in depth but glad it did. I learned a great deal from ya'll.... Thanks!
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Old Oct 16, 2009 | 06:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeepnboy
Wayoflife - is the 2 degrees camber you mention noticable by eye or something you found from an alignement rack? I assume, stock camber set at zero on our jeeps; is this correct? I also assume 2 degrees is not easily noticed when drving on the street, correct?
oh, believe me, 2° is totally noticable by eye. as far as driving goes, it can cause a pull to one side.

Any one found a good replacement for the stock ball joints that are failing? I know Dynatrac is working on some but have not been released yet. Napa has some misalligned ball joints that are suppose to be stronger than stock but I do not have verification of this yet.
no, the dynatrac ball joints are available - just very expensive and they won't fix you camber. while i have seen some offset ball joints around, i have not seen anyone verify that they will work on a jk.

Originally Posted by GeoFishnJK
After about 8k with 37" on I too now have OVER 2° on the passenger side and just under 1.5° on the drivers side. Why would the passenger side allow for more then the drivers side?
because it's harder to see things on your passenger side and you are more likely to hit rocks there and harder. at least, that's what happend to us. pretty much all 1.9° of the camber we had on our passenger side came from one hit to a rock that i mis-judged and was strong enough to twist the splines on our steering box. the 1.5 of camber we had on the driver side came over time.

There is alot more tube on the passenger side. I now have EVO gussets and hope to see no additional camber but wonder if some bending of the tube will still happen?
you're right, there is A LOT more tube on the passenger side and isn't it odd that you're only seeing a .5° difference in the amount of camber you have? i mean, the driver side tube is so short, i can't imagine how it could bend .5° let alone 1.5° and if it could, why doesn't the passenger side bend 4X as much as it is SOOOOO much longer?

Originally Posted by GeoFishnJK
I'd still challenge anyone to throw up camber readings or at least take a level to your wheels and see if you find more camber on the passenger side. Thats all.
that's what i'm saying. if i'm wrong, i'd like to know as much. i did and did not see a correlation.

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Old Nov 4, 2009 | 12:49 PM
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Jim, chief engineer with AEV advised that if the C Gussets are already installed, its OK to trim the AEV bracket that nestles adjacent to the C gusset. I got this off the AEV forum.
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Old Nov 4, 2009 | 02:03 PM
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Excellent thread.

My AEV lift went on about a week ago.
EVO Gussets being welded on Monday.

Open question on axle sleeve - not enough data.
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