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Old Feb 2, 2013 | 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by shockwaveaz
You guys that compare these cheepo copy cat winches to Warn make me laugh. They are like comparing a H1 Alpha to a Nissan Xterra.

Everyone's needs are different. If you don't need an extremely reliable proven HD winch, than the $300 one will probably do fine and get you home. I have seen plenty of guys use them. They work just fine and there are some really nice ones out there. Eg Recon. They are not the fastest. You do need to let them cool off sometimes. But, they will get you home in most cases, and you will still have left over $ to spend elsewhere.

You just can't compare the 300 dollar product to Warn. Yes, they are expensive. They are expensive because warn has been at the top of their game for over 50 years. First responders don't strap a Harbor Freight winch to the front of their ambulance. The reason being when you need it most , you need it to work , and you needed to work well.

Duty cycle and line speed make a big difference during complicated recoveries. Anybody who has spent enough time out on the trail know this as fact and no statistics are needed to back it up.

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I agree with you 100% I was trying to be Diplomatic about it, but you laid it right out there. I don't put cheap glass on top of my guns {try selling a cheap scope you don't like} I don't put cheap boots on my feet {My first Red Wings cost nearly a weeks wages when I was 18}. I am going to start a show me youre WARN winch thread in show & tell.
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Old Feb 2, 2013 | 08:09 AM
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I do 1 or 2 all day wheeling treks a year and maybe play in the mud for half a day once a month. The recon suits my needs. I can't justify spending almost 2k on a synthetic waterproof winch with built in syilinoid for light wheeling. If my job was a first responder or I needed to use it on a daily basis I would go with warn. You need to find a winch that's fits your needs.

Oakley sunglasses are great... But a $10 panama jack set might fit your needs just as good.

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Old Feb 2, 2013 | 08:25 AM
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Even warns use china parts. At least the motors on the high end models are...
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Old Feb 2, 2013 | 09:08 AM
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Even warns use china parts. At least the motors on the high end models are...
Yes they do...
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Old Feb 2, 2013 | 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Jonathan_JK
I do 1 or 2 all day wheeling treks a year and maybe play in the mud for half a day once a month. The recon suits my needs. I can't justify spending almost 2k on a synthetic waterproof winch with built in syilinoid for light wheeling. If my job was a first responder or I needed to use it on a daily basis I would go with warn. You need to find a winch that's fits your needs.

Oakley sunglasses are great... But a $10 panama jack set might fit your needs just as good.
I agree with you also. It just seems every winch thread turns into lets bash Warn. I wheel some remote pleces with a offroad trailer in tow I am trying to build to be totaly self reliant and elininate as many week points as I can. I only paid 1,200$ for my Warn PowerPlant thats not bad considering seperate onboard air would run 300 to 400$ if bought seperatly. I air down every time I hit the trail or dunes ever wait 11/2 hour at the air pump outside the dunes.
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Old Feb 2, 2013 | 09:55 AM
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But how much extra cost is involved just because of there reputation and big name brand?
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Old Feb 2, 2013 | 10:54 AM
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I've got a Warn M8000. Got it because I found a great deal on it, and line speed was twice that of the Warn VR series and I only paid $50 more for the M8000.

Another that I liked about Warn was that it is completely rebuildable. I don't know if that is true of other winches so I'm not saying it's a competitive advantage. My view is that the winch is a long term investment unlike tires or something. So, I liked that it can be rebuilt.

Also, no matter how much $ you spend on the winch, it's only as good as your battery and alternator. Winch is just 1 component of an entire recovery system.
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Old Feb 2, 2013 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by knightrohulk
I've got a Warn M8000. Got it because I found a great deal on it, and line speed was twice that of the Warn VR series and I only paid $50 more for the M8000.

Another that I liked about Warn was that it is completely rebuildable. I don't know if that is true of other winches so I'm not saying it's a competitive advantage. My view is that the winch is a long term investment unlike tires or something. So, I liked that it can be rebuilt.

Also, no matter how much $ you spend on the winch, it's only as good as your battery and alternator. Winch is just 1 component of an entire recovery system.
^^ totally agree with that. I really need to upgrade to a dual battery system. I watched the you tube video on the conversion and dam thats a lot of work to move everything around to get the 2nd on in there. Plus it will interfere with my River Raider Snorkel that I pan to get in the future. So I'm torn on the dual battery system.
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