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Old Mar 26, 2014 | 01:41 AM
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Originally Posted by HeyBob
Jnabird333 has the full 3.5" kit with bilstein remote res shocks instead of the arb. He felt the rear trackbar raised the roll center to hi messing with geometry.

I've talked with him a little on the issue at club meetings. I don't think it's a major problem. He just didn't like the feel. He is an engineer by trade and therefore hyper sensitive of anything different in his ride.

I haven't driven in the MC rig to give you my take. I know it's not the coils or arms tho since I run both of those and love them.
It's true, I am sensitive

However, everyone that was in my Jeep noticed it. This includes a family member that knows nothing about Jeeps or suspension. After my alignment the tech told me he though something was wrong with the rear because he felt it too.

It's too early for me to know for sure on the springs and arms, but at the moment I really like them and the quality was great,

I should add that while I don't like the rear track bar, I have found MC stands behind their products, they went out of their way to contact me when I posted an informal install review on another forum to see if they could help. I wouldn't hesitate in buying from them again.
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Old Mar 26, 2014 | 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by jnabird333
This is from the MC site.... Upper is set 1" longer and lower is 1"ish to adjust for pinion angle


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That must be old, that's not what it currently states on their site FYI. Or if it does it must be a page that wasn't updated because I clearly see 5/8.
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Old Mar 26, 2014 | 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by rsbmg
That must be old, that's not what it currently states on their site FYI. Or if it does it must be a page that wasn't updated because I clearly see 5/8.
Correct. Slightly less than 1" on lower and 1" on upper for a 4" lift. Upper length sets pinion for an aftermarket shaft. I cut about 3/4" off the upper as I have a stock rear shaft.
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Old Mar 26, 2014 | 07:05 AM
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Making the all control arms an inch longer wouldn't move the axle back a whole inch because of angles and stuff.
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Old Mar 26, 2014 | 09:54 AM
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Finished MC 2.5" lift 35x12.50

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Old Mar 26, 2014 | 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by rsbmg

That must be old, that's not what it currently states on their site FYI. Or if it does it must be a page that wasn't updated because I clearly see 5/8.
I took that screenshot this morning off of the control arm page
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Old Mar 26, 2014 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by steel pirate
Making the all control arms an inch longer wouldn't move the axle back a whole inch because of angles and stuff.
You're right it moves it back six tenths of an and beyond the stock location. I understand how to do geometry and that's where I calculated the four tenths of an inch needed to put it back to the stock location.
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Old Mar 26, 2014 | 05:45 PM
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AEV also raises their rear TB a shit ton. 5-6" iirc with a specially bent track bar for clearance.
First time reading any complaints on AEV or MC's rear roll center numbers. Interesting
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Old Mar 27, 2014 | 04:00 AM
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It probably works well with the AEV because they raise the front a few inches too.
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Old Mar 27, 2014 | 04:45 AM
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Originally Posted by steel pirate
It probably works well with the AEV because they raise the front a few inches too.
Ahh true with the 3.5" kits. The 2.5 is raised but not as much. Good call
MC doesn't believe in steering correction becAuse if up travel loss iirc.
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