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Old May 18, 2015 | 03:18 PM
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More pics (PRE-WORK). You can see what I am talking about better. I could not locate POR-15. Picked up some type of Loctite product. Anyone ever use or have experience with this stuff?


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Also, if anyone wants to tell me what type of shocks these are in the back and what I should replace them with, I'm all ears.

Thanks!

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Old May 18, 2015 | 04:24 PM
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just go over it every time it rusts up with more rattle can the frame semi gloss black , silver on the muffler mines a 12 & you just cant keep it from doin this unless you por 15 maybe . Toxic though i hear if you get it on you lol

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Old May 18, 2015 | 05:05 PM
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Whoever is suggesting you just keep repainting rust with a rattle can has no idea what they are talking about! I did this years ago and watched my YJ undercarriage rust into oblivian! New rust will form under the paint and then the paint will flake off. You will get perhaps 3-6 months of paint coverage only to see the rust continue to eat everything and spread.

Decades later and now I know what to do: wire wheel or just hand sand off loose rust, then Metal Prep and apply POR15 on everything except the exhaust components which heat up. Also use Eastwood's internal frame coating on the inside of your frame rails. Then use VHT ceramic paint on the exhaust components that heat up. Then finish it all with Fluid Film.

It is worth your time to do this if you care about your vehicle and want to keep it long term. If you are looking for a quick 3-6 month visual fix for rust, then do the rattle can coverup method but believe me things will look like hell again and be significantly more eaten away a year later.
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Old May 18, 2015 | 07:24 PM
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spray cans fine ! Unless your going to do everything in por 15 rust will find its way there .

Most people who arnt choose to just rattle can it , knowing by the time your frame rots through you prob
will need a new vehicle anyway . As for your muffler light brush and hit with silver spray paint works great . Some day after ten years you might have to spend $40 bucks and replace it . Its not like we dont see salt and rust here in nh Click image for larger version

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Granted removing rust and treating and sealing & coating is a better way ,as the (infojunkie suggests) wire wheel the whole dam underside & por 15 everything if you want to spend all that time and $ under your vehicle . Just depends how anal you become over a jeep or any vehicle for that matter HEY" They can Chrome it if it makes Them feel better lol then turtle wax it

(wonder why they come from the factory rusted even if you order one new ?)
hee he > post # 7 is correct

also curios how long and much $ it Takes to clean and treat then por 15 the whole uderside then fluid film it all ?
Id rather be living a life

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Old May 19, 2015 | 03:49 AM
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jeepmojo - I was able to get the entire anti-rust process I described done with just a couple hundred dollars and a one to two hours each day over four days. Each product needs about 24 hours to cure and I used three products followed by fluid film.

- POR15 is done over rust. You do not need to go crazy sanding/wire wheeling everything.

- just Rattle Canning/covering up your rust for visual effect only will result in everything rusting out very quickly. Of course "very quickly" is a relative thing. For me my prior Jeep, living in the rust belt, had very thin/unrepairable rusted suspension and body panel components after 10 years of neglect (and annual rattle can cover-up). Exhaust system components rusted through much faster and hangers/tubes and muffler had to be replaced due to failures. That was quick in my opinion and I like to have vehicles last longer than that.

- this is all my opinion based upon experience of owning several vehicles and having a prior Jeep rust out on me. Of course mileage will vary but having done the rattle can rust cover-up thing I can plainly and honestly state it doesn't work.
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Old May 19, 2015 | 05:34 AM
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Clearly some southerners.


In western ny a 5 month old jeep looks like that.


That's just surface rust don't worry.

Por-15 bonds to rust. U don't use it on clean metal it works best on metal with surface rust
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Old May 19, 2015 | 06:38 AM
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These are all good suggestions and I very much appreciate you all taking the time to help. I do feel a little better that this is normal in a jeep. The POR-15 method seems to be the way to go. I plan to just bump the rust off with a wire wheel. Coat with some sort of rust KILLER, which today I have some sort of Loctite product (I cannot find POR-15 anywhere on the shelf). I wanted to start the process now and not wait for an online order to be delivered) and rattle can it. The Loctite stuff I have was $18 for a small bottle. The premise is the same as POR-15 but whatever it is applied to turns to a black paintable surface.

Question (or just for clarification) - since both products turn the surface to a black finish for painting, do you or do you not hit the exhaust? I saw painting it silver etc. but just wanted to clarify.

Tahnks again!!
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Old May 19, 2015 | 01:36 PM
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the job of a two door jk id price it on line , if you can just paint it on with a brush over light surface rust mine is not bad shape from using the regular rustoleum spray cans . Is it ok to just go over the painted surface or does that all have to be stripped where it peeled. mine would be relatively easy seeing its been somewhat protected already by paint. some one said you can just use rubbing alcohol wiped on for prepping prior to putting por 15 on is this true ?

Does it go on like tar , or paint ? I know spray paint dosent hold up long but its been better than just letting it rust out with out doing something, and it looks decent after its done for the most part .
if you could slop it on like painting a fence over some light rusty stuff around bolts and in creases with out sanding id consider getting a some .



maybe 2 or 3 cans of this ordered through walmart ??

http://www.walmart.com/ip/34058576?w...458415&veh=sem

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Old May 19, 2015 | 02:28 PM
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Look at the transformation after only 2 hours:
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Appears to be turning black. Once this happens, is it really a matter of taking a can and going to town? Should I not care what the paint hits? I know.......dumb question but I have to ask it. New to Jeep and new to working on my own stuff!?!?!?!?! LOL!
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Old May 19, 2015 | 03:39 PM
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applied ? hmmm not bad
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