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Old Jul 25, 2012 | 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Hskr4x4

Shock shouldn't be flex limiter. That's why they make straps and bump stops. As for the coils, I've never heard of anyone's being lose when flexing as well as my own, so I'm guessing you have the incorrect coils. Is the shop that did your lift reputable, are you sure they are even JK coils?
4wheel parts did install. I confirmed part numbers in kit and it's for jk.... As far as flex limiter I meant that as (what else is going to stop the droop/sag) besides the shock or brake line or the like. I hope that makes sense....
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Old Jul 25, 2012 | 10:17 PM
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Nothing will help sag, and the more you add like bumpers and winch the more it'll sag. If I remember right, your exact lift is known to sag. Down the road you may wanna add spacer and or body lift.

4wheelparts is a great shop. I would take back to them and tell them about the flexing and loose springs and have them look into it. There shouldn't be any cost since they did install. If lift is new and they can't fix issue, I'd honestly ask for a different lift (no new install costs)
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Old Jul 25, 2012 | 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Hskr4x4
Nothing will help sag, and the more you add like bumpers and winch the more it'll sag. If I remember right, your exact lift is known to sag. Down the road you may wanna add spacer and or body lift.

4wheelparts is a great shop. I would take back to them and tell them about the flexing and loose springs and have them look into it. There shouldn't be any cost since they did install and if lift is new, and they can't fix issue, I'd honestly ask for a different lift (no new install costs)
I hate typing...... Never says what i want/mean to say.....When I said droop/sag I was referring to the axles hanging(flexing) Sorry if that caused any confusion.
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Old Jul 25, 2012 | 10:26 PM
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Limiting straps and bumps stops will do that (thats all you need)

I'd cut the stress in half and just go back to them and explain the issues. They will make right of it!
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Old Jul 25, 2012 | 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Hskr4x4
Limiting straps and bumps stops will do that (thats all you need)

I'd cut the stress in half and just go back to them and explain the issues. They will make right of it!
Appreciate your input and time.
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Old Jul 25, 2012 | 10:35 PM
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No problem man... I'd be worrying about it too... Be glad they did install, that way you don't have to spend hours working on things when they have all the tools and time to do it for you.. Don't let them scam you into paying for stuff expecially if it's something the may have overlooked
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Old Jul 26, 2012 | 12:50 PM
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Actually, it depends. Sure having spring clips will prevent the springs from poping out but your axel shouldn't drop that far anyway. Once tension is off the spring you no longer have traction on that wheel anyway. Why let it drop any further.

I have a Rancho 4" lift kit. The Rancho shocks suppied with the kit are selected specifically for the kit. They are designed to be the limiting device for downward axel travel just as the bump-stops are there to limit upward travel. They both dampen and limit.
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Old Jul 26, 2012 | 01:35 PM
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If you are running long travel shocks then it is more common to have your springs "loose." This is one reason why they sell spring retainers, if you are not running long travel shocks then the shocks will be the limiting factor when flexing. The spring retainers keep the spring attached axle side while it droops on the tower frame side. If you have retainers you can have about 5 more inches of flex or the length of the inner spring tower on the frame before the spring will come out. In any case limiting straps help to prevent the spring dropping below the spring tower frame side and from over extending your shocks.
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Old Jul 26, 2012 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Sahara Lee
Once tension is off the spring you no longer have traction on that wheel anyway. Why let it drop any further.
I by no means am an expert but I have to disagree. Although the spring is no longer exerting force on the axle there is still beneficial traction that can be found. With the weight of wheels tires and suspension binding/ flexing there will be enough force/ traction to get you through a situation. And for us not using lockers, having all four wheels on the ground is better then having one off spinning freely. Also I would imagine lateral stability would also be beneficial.
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