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Old Jul 1, 2021 | 06:38 AM
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I can only find the brackets for the lower arms
https://www.gorancho.com/products/ac...s-rs62103.html
https://www.aev-conversions.com/prod...t/#cambolt-kit
https://metalcloak.com/jk-wrangler-h...nment-kit.html

Those Ranchos are 1-piece and offer 4 mounting positions to adjust caster. AEV is cheaper and the old standard 2-piece design with 3 mounting options, and the MC brackets are waaaayyyy overpriced. Jeesh . Rubicon Express makes some too that are cheaper but I've helped install some and there were small fitment issues that aggravated me.

Just sayin' really think through your options. Installing brackets is a lot easier than full set of arms too. Still not a 5 min job, but easier and might fill the need.

When considering brackets over arms, consider the benefit of the bracket is that it lowers the frame side mount which puts the arm at a flatter angle which is beneficial on pavement. Though adjustable arms can adjust caster, consider the angle those arms are running at between the axle and frame and also consider the quality of the arm and the joint. Install an arm with a metal joint and expect to feel a lot more feedback on the pavement. Some manufacturers will use a bushing in their control arms, Metalcloak and Synergy being two of those. Install control arm brackets and expect loss of ground clearance at the frame rail. This is a pick your poison thing......

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Old Jul 1, 2021 | 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by resharp001
https://www.gorancho.com/products/ac...s-rs62103.html
https://www.aev-conversions.com/prod...t/#cambolt-kit
https://metalcloak.com/jk-wrangler-h...nment-kit.html

Those Ranchos are 1-piece and offer 4 mounting positions to adjust caster. AEV is cheaper and the old standard 2-piece design with 3 mounting options, and the MC brackets are waaaayyyy overpriced. Jeesh . Rubicon Express makes some too that are cheaper but I've helped install some and there were small fitment issues that aggravated me.

Just sayin' really think through your options. Installing brackets is a lot easier than full set of arms too. Still not a 5 min job, but easier and might fill the need.

When considering brackets over arms, consider the benefit of the bracket is that it lowers the frame side mount which puts the arm at a flatter angle which is beneficial on pavement. Though adjustable arms can adjust caster, consider the angle those arms are running at between the axle and frame and also consider the quality of the arm and the joint. Install an arm with a metal joint and expect to feel a lot more feedback on the pavement. Some manufacturers will use a bushing in their control arms, Metalcloak and Synergy being two of those. Install control arm brackets and expect loss of ground clearance at the frame rail. This is a pick your poison thing......
Now is the bracket going to get my caster closer?
I can go get an alignment after and check.
Would the AEV 2 piece hold up?

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Old Jul 1, 2021 | 06:49 AM
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The two piece designs are perfectly fine, they are just a bit more cumbersome to install. check out this quick Rancho video -


You pay a bit more for 1-piece design, but they also offer a 4th moutning location. Those mounting locations for the upper arms are what adjust the caster. More holes, more options.

Also consider that these things are re-sellable. If you ever do go to control arms, you could probably get 65-75% of your cost back selling these to someone else. I'm not trying to push you one way or the other, just to really get you to consider your options and not make a hasty decision.
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Old Jul 1, 2021 | 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by resharp001
The two piece designs are perfectly fine, they are just a bit more cumbersome to install. check out this quick Rancho video -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6M_csB2WXc

You pay a bit more for 1-piece design, but they also offer a 4th moutning location. Those mounting locations for the upper arms are what adjust the caster. More holes, more options.
But the AEV has holes for my 2.5” right?
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Old Jul 1, 2021 | 06:54 AM
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theoretically, yes, but every jeep sits differently. Based on your caster it seems your jeep is sitting higher. Theoretically those brackets have a hole for a 3.5" lift too. The downside of a bracket is you are limited to the mounting locations as your adjustment options. Caster is not an exact science though.....it's an acceptable range in which to operate.
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Originally Posted by resharp001
theoretically, yes, but every jeep sits differently. Based on your caster it seems your jeep is sitting higher. Theoretically those brackets have a hole for a 3.5" lift too. The downside of a bracket is you are limited to the mounting locations as your adjustment options. Caster is not an exact science though.....it's an acceptable range in which to operate.
I read the instructions on the AEV and my measurement from the frame to the top of my spring seat is 5.5” to 6.5” which is recommended for the 2.5” lift mounting holes.
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Old Jul 1, 2021 | 09:31 AM
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if you go with those brackets then start there with that hole. That leaves you room for more adjustment if you need it so that's nice.
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Old Jul 1, 2021 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by resharp001
if you go with those brackets then start there with that hole. That leaves you room for more adjustment if you need it so that's nice.
Thank you so much
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Old Jul 2, 2021 | 09:18 AM
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Hey that's me in the video LOL
All good info too @resharp001 nothing I would add.
But in the video (just clarify) those are adjustable arms set to "stock height" used with our geo bracket. We work with a rental company and they try to "rental" proof their Jeeps as much as possible.
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Originally Posted by resharp001
The two piece designs are perfectly fine, they are just a bit more cumbersome to install. check out this quick Rancho video -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6M_csB2WXc

You pay a bit more for 1-piece design, but they also offer a 4th moutning location. Those mounting locations for the upper arms are what adjust the caster. More holes, more options.

Also consider that these things are re-sellable. If you ever do go to control arms, you could probably get 65-75% of your cost back selling these to someone else. I'm not trying to push you one way or the other, just to really get you to consider your options and not make a hasty decision.
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Old Jul 9, 2021 | 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by resharp001
if you go with those brackets then start there with that hole. That leaves you room for more adjustment if you need it so that's nice.
Ok, put my correction brackets on and put the upper control arms in 2.5” lift holes. Here is my new alignment sheet.
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