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Old Jan 27, 2015 | 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by JK505
I actually had a similar problem! If i turned one way and let the wheel spin back (while not moving) I got the same knock. It was my trackbar as well. An adj track bar is never a bad idea IMO. I'm running the teraflex and think it's awesome. Just picking it up you will feel the biggest difference you could imagine. 5" of lift and stock mounting locations, no complaints.
Thanks that's the message I needed to here before I buy an adjustable one and take that bracket off.
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Old Jan 27, 2015 | 07:16 AM
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do you have a flipped draglink or dropped pitman arm? If so, removing the raised bracket with ruin your steering geometry which will lead to other handling issues.
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Old Jan 27, 2015 | 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by D_engel
do you have a flipped draglink or dropped pitman arm? If so, removing the raised bracket with ruin your steering geometry which will lead to other handling issues.
Do be honest my kit came with a different pitman arm. I cannot remember if the instructions told me to install it or not for my year jeep... I do not have a flipped draglink.
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Old Jan 27, 2015 | 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by D_engel
do you have a flipped draglink or dropped pitman arm? If so, removing the raised bracket with ruin your steering geometry which will lead to other handling issues.
Good point, I didn't think to even ask about that.

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Do be honest my kit came with a different pitman arm. I cannot remember if the instructions told me to install it or not for my year jeep... I do not have a flipped draglink.
If you post a picture of the pitman arm we might be able to tell. Or even just a picture from the front of your jeep. You want your drag link and track bar to be as parallel as possible for good handling. Removing the bracket with a drop pitman arm would put them at two different angles.
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Old Jan 27, 2015 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by JK505
Good point, I didn't think to even ask about that. If you post a picture of the pitman arm we might be able to tell. Or even just a picture from the front of your jeep. You want your drag link and track bar to be as parallel as possible for good handling. Removing the bracket with a drop pitman arm would put them at two different angles.
Here's those photos guys, I called trail master which is who sold me the lift kit. They say I can remove that bracket and install an adjustable track bar and it won't mess things up?
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Old Jan 27, 2015 | 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Jasoncinpean
Here's those photos guys, I called trail master which is who sold me the lift kit. They say I can remove that bracket and install an adjustable track bar and it won't mess things up?
Is this the kit?

Trail Master Part TM3335-40013 - 3.5 Inch Lift Kit with NGS Shocks - Fits 2007 to 2015 Wrangler, Rubicon and Unlimited - Trailmaster Suspension

As noted earlier, the trackbar and draglink should be relatively parallel to each other. When you added the drop pitman arm, you lowered one end of the draglink. The angles were off. So to fix it, a relocated trackbar bracket was also installed. Both bars were parallel before the lift, and due to the drop pitman & trackbar bracket, both bars remain parallel after the lift. Removing one without also removing the other is known to cause a nice case of bumpsteer.

Can't comment on who you spoke with at Trailmaster, but it might be worth your time to make another call...
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Old Jan 27, 2015 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Jasoncinpean
Here's those photos guys, I called trail master which is who sold me the lift kit. They say I can remove that bracket and install an adjustable track bar and it won't mess things up?
It's a little hard for me to see but I think you'll be fine with using the stock location. Im that bracket doesn't seem to even lift it up very high. The left side of the picture is a tad dark to see. The only advantage to the adj track bar will be centering your axle. If you take the drop pitman arm off as well as the bracket they would probably be parallel.
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Old Jan 27, 2015 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by JK505
It's a little hard for me to see but I think you'll be fine with using the stock location. Im that bracket doesn't seem to even lift it up very high. The left side of the picture is a tad dark to see. The only advantage to the adj track bar will be centering your axle. If you take the drop pitman arm off as well as the bracket they would probably be parallel.

I will give it a try guys and let you know if you us care to know, I had the track bar braket re welded this morning with a 300amp welder and also reinforced it so it should be a lot more solid than what came from the factory.
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Old Jan 27, 2015 | 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Jasoncinpean
I will give it a try guys and let you know if you us care to know, I had the track bar braket re welded this morning with a 300amp welder and also reinforced it so it should be a lot more solid than what came from the factory.
Sounds like you should be good to go back down the road again!
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Old Jan 27, 2015 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by JK505
Sounds like you should be good to go back down the road again!
Except that many people on here talk about the extra stress/leverage caused by a drop pitman, leading to steering box failure. The general recommendation is to run a drag link flip / high steer instead of the cheaper drop pitman/bracket. It just never ends, does it...
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