Superchip Flashpaq tune
JK Junkie
Joined: Jul 2008
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From: Lakewood, OH
You're comparing a big block Chevelle to a 3.8 jeep as far as cost per hp? That's unfair in itself. A big block (assuming you are talking about the standard 454" motor) will begin life with gobs and gobs more power than a 3.8 could ever have wet dreams about making.
And then you have the cost factor. I could buy a 454 for less than a 3.8 so that's another divot in that comparison. And even when referring to the cost of upgrades, I could re-cam or upgrade heads or intake manifolds or headers etc etc on a big v8 for less than it costs for a CAI/tuner setup for a 3.8 motor jeep. The only reason people can claim a 7-10% gain is because the initial hp number is so low.
Not saying its not a good upgrade, as I stated in my post, I do indeed like it. But, some posts on this forum could be causing people to have unreal expectations from that product. It has it's pluses but also has its draw backs.
And yes, I am aware gears do not provide hp, I never said that. They were a more noticeable mod as far as compensation for larger/heavier wheels and tires. Dollar for hp, I would advise someone who is looking for the most power they can get out of their 3.8 safely, to look into a ripp stage 2 kit. And it comes with a tuner.
And then you have the cost factor. I could buy a 454 for less than a 3.8 so that's another divot in that comparison. And even when referring to the cost of upgrades, I could re-cam or upgrade heads or intake manifolds or headers etc etc on a big v8 for less than it costs for a CAI/tuner setup for a 3.8 motor jeep. The only reason people can claim a 7-10% gain is because the initial hp number is so low.
Not saying its not a good upgrade, as I stated in my post, I do indeed like it. But, some posts on this forum could be causing people to have unreal expectations from that product. It has it's pluses but also has its draw backs.
And yes, I am aware gears do not provide hp, I never said that. They were a more noticeable mod as far as compensation for larger/heavier wheels and tires. Dollar for hp, I would advise someone who is looking for the most power they can get out of their 3.8 safely, to look into a ripp stage 2 kit. And it comes with a tuner.
Cost/Value
Flashpaq $300 / 20hp = $15 per hp
RIPP $4000 / 125hp = $32 per hp
Horsepower doesn't come cheap.
Last edited by JPop; Mar 25, 2012 at 05:43 PM.
JK Enthusiast
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 150
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From: anytown,anywhere
According to the dyno charts that I saw from Superchips, you only gain 3 ft/lbs of torque when going from 87 tune to 91 tune.
That was read with a 6 speed manual on the dyno.
A chart of the 93 tune was not available.
I noticed a big difference in throttle response and overall improvement with 87 tune compared to stock. Plus, I like the other tools that the flashpaq offers. For me, it was worth the money.
That was read with a 6 speed manual on the dyno.
A chart of the 93 tune was not available.
I noticed a big difference in throttle response and overall improvement with 87 tune compared to stock. Plus, I like the other tools that the flashpaq offers. For me, it was worth the money.
JK Newbie
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 89
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From: Boonton NJ
I thought new tires was money well spent, until I got the Superchips!!!
Mass improvement! Did the 87 tune, didnt mess with anything else and it is very very noticable! Dnt have to shut of OD out on the highway, doesnt lose speed on slight inclines and just makes the JEEP very easy to drive. Money well spent!
Mass improvement! Did the 87 tune, didnt mess with anything else and it is very very noticable! Dnt have to shut of OD out on the highway, doesnt lose speed on slight inclines and just makes the JEEP very easy to drive. Money well spent!
JK Enthusiast
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 207
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From: las vegas, nevada
Originally Posted by JPop
Way to go there. Care to clarify?
JK Freak
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 667
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From: WA
I run the 87 tune on mine works awesome especially with larger tires. I had the 35s with out the tune for 2 days I thought I was driving a train. but because of the shift points it makes the ride much smoother trying to get on the highway (for the 3 miles i need to get to work). Also w/ the K&N CAI it made a world of difference as stated before by a couple of other people. I didnt get it for HP or torque gain I purchased it to be able to ajust the speedo and to calibrate for mods ie: tires, gears, ect.
