Truth about Dana 30s
Well it looks like I'm comfortable to stay with the Dana 30 for a long time. Just beef up the weak points and I should be good for what ever in my skill level.
Additional question; Thinking about going with the RIPP SC. With that, should I go with 4.10s instead of 4.88s? Again, most of my wheeling is in desert roads or sand dunes. Most towing would be under 2000 pounds for sure.
Additional question; Thinking about going with the RIPP SC. With that, should I go with 4.10s instead of 4.88s? Again, most of my wheeling is in desert roads or sand dunes. Most towing would be under 2000 pounds for sure.
Perhaps a dumb question, but from the point of view of eventual repair costs (but also ease of repair), is it better to leave the original shafts as a 'fuse' or they are too weak/complicated to replace so is better to upgrade and leave the u-joint at the wheel hub become the eventual 'fuse'? Note my lack of experience in the matter (but I am starting to inquiry to learn about it!
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)no, it isn't better to leave the factory shafts as a fuse. the problem with them is that they come with c-clips as opposed to full circle clips and, this ultimately leads to preventable u-joint failure. trust me, if you play hard enough, you'll still end up breaking a shaft well before a reasonablly sized ring and pinion or drive shaft. if you can prevent a dumb break like the kind a c-clip falling off can cause, i say make the upgrade and prevent it from happening.
Again, all comes down to money and your uses. The furthest I go from home to wheel is about 2 hours away. In the event I ever did snap a shaft or anything else, getting the jeep home really wouldnt be a problem even IF it was some sort of catastrophic failure and I needed a flat bed.
Sorry WOL, I have to somewhat disagree. Of course using upgraded shafts and upgraded shafts as trail spares would be ideal. But the cost is huge. Why not just carry used OEM shafts?? C clip failure? just have them tack welded in! I got a set from one of the yards I deal with for 60 bucks! A far cry from the $1000.00 give or take for chromos.
Again, all comes down to money and your uses. The furthest I go from home to wheel is about 2 hours away. In the event I ever did snap a shaft or anything else, getting the jeep home really wouldnt be a problem even IF it was some sort of catastrophic failure and I needed a flat bed.
Again, all comes down to money and your uses. The furthest I go from home to wheel is about 2 hours away. In the event I ever did snap a shaft or anything else, getting the jeep home really wouldnt be a problem even IF it was some sort of catastrophic failure and I needed a flat bed.
no need to apologize, you're more than welcome to disagree with me all you want 
also, i don't know where you like to shop but, a set of dana 30 chromo shafts only cost about $599
http://www.northridge4x4.com/proddet...G22152&cat=277

last but not least, tack welding your u-joints can do the job of holding them in place but, not everyone has the means or the know how to do that. and, this still wouldn't do anything to help beef up the splines or shaft strenght. the way i see it, if you can help prevent a break in the first place, everyone has a good day but then, that's just me - you're free to disagree with me
Well it looks like I'm comfortable to stay with the Dana 30 for a long time. Just beef up the weak points and I should be good for what ever in my skill level.
Additional question; Thinking about going with the RIPP SC. With that, should I go with 4.10s instead of 4.88s? Again, most of my wheeling is in desert roads or sand dunes. Most towing would be under 2000 pounds for sure.
Additional question; Thinking about going with the RIPP SC. With that, should I go with 4.10s instead of 4.88s? Again, most of my wheeling is in desert roads or sand dunes. Most towing would be under 2000 pounds for sure.
no need to apologize, you're more than welcome to disagree with me all you want 
also, i don't know where you like to shop but, a set of dana 30 chromo shafts only cost about $599
http://www.northridge4x4.com/proddet...G22152&cat=277

last but not least, tack welding your u-joints can do the job of holding them in place but, not everyone has the means or the know how to do that. and, this still wouldn't do anything to help beef up the splines or shaft strenght. the way i see it, if you can help prevent a break in the first place, everyone has a good day but then, that's just me - you're free to disagree with me

I guess the way I always saw it was I'd be FURIOUS if I ever broke an expensive chromo shaft, and always had the theory that stronger shafts would lead to possible R&P failure, which would a PITA fix compared to replacing a shaft.
Good points though. BTW I had a D60 and Sterling 10.5 ready for building for a while, but the costs I was going to incur made me scrap that idea (for now anyway), so I'm definatly pro-stronger axles so to speak, I'm just anti spending money
always had the theory that stronger shafts would lead to possible R&P failure, which would a PITA fix compared to replacing a shaft.
but, if you keep your r&p to a 4.88 on a dana 30, your odds of that happening is greatly reduced. at 5.13, the pinion gets to be really really small and at this point, the odds of you breaking one is a lot greater.
well, it can happen, god knows i've been able to break a dana 44 chromo shaft but, even ten factory offers up a 10 year warranty and, i know they'll honor it.
oh, and it is, let me tell you
but, if you keep your r&p to a 4.88 on a dana 30, your odds of that happening is greatly reduced. at 5.13, the pinion gets to be really really small and at this point, the odds of you breaking one is a lot greater.
oh, and it is, let me tell you
but, if you keep your r&p to a 4.88 on a dana 30, your odds of that happening is greatly reduced. at 5.13, the pinion gets to be really really small and at this point, the odds of you breaking one is a lot greater.
One thing I will say is I take it VERY slow on trails, I'm sure other guys beat their stuff harder (hehe) and are more prone to some sort of failure. Oh and thanks a lot, now you've got me looking at those ten shafts, and I literally just got 6 boxes from NR to my door 2 days ago. Wife's gonna be pissssed...


