Is it just me?
Iwaxmyjimmy!
1st your springs are unseated so there's no down force pushing them to the ground for traction.
You don't need more up travel chances are your tires are close to stuffing you meed longer springs and raised lower mounts with longer bumps....lcg builds can only do so much unless someones a progressive long soft spring or coilovers with a sacraficial spring...
You can do 14" shocks but raise lower mounts and move all the junk hanging on fender wells abs etc but you will also look to your drive shaft hitting tranny pan and cross member and track bar will be fun.
Its best to go 3/4 link set up and run sway bars, get rid of track bar...just my thought been doing this (fab/race/prerun)18+ years now. But I could be wrong lol
2nd reservoir shocks have the IFP in the reservoir allowing for an inch more travel in the same shock
Reservoir shocks also allow for more oil staying cleaner longer and yes jeeps aren't hammering like desert trucks but as heavy as they are the shocks get worked and fade is still a issue.
Your ticked off that there's posers and mall crawlers...I agree its sometimes laughable a d I won't wheel with someone unprepared for the trails...there are o es we do that if your not on 35s a d dual locked your gonna hang up and get winched...stacking and winching is not my cup of tea I cringe at either when i have to do it....id rather get it sideways and scramble bjt sometimes i have to....winching someone unprepared is irritating and takes up alot of time....
So not to p!$$ on the parade but theres views from all points.
And I use bead locks, 37s, locked front and rear, ten factory rear and rcv front, fox reservoir shocks.....
1st your springs are unseated so there's no down force pushing them to the ground for traction.
You don't need more up travel chances are your tires are close to stuffing you meed longer springs and raised lower mounts with longer bumps....lcg builds can only do so much unless someones a progressive long soft spring or coilovers with a sacraficial spring...
You can do 14" shocks but raise lower mounts and move all the junk hanging on fender wells abs etc but you will also look to your drive shaft hitting tranny pan and cross member and track bar will be fun.
Its best to go 3/4 link set up and run sway bars, get rid of track bar...just my thought been doing this (fab/race/prerun)18+ years now. But I could be wrong lol
2nd reservoir shocks have the IFP in the reservoir allowing for an inch more travel in the same shock
Reservoir shocks also allow for more oil staying cleaner longer and yes jeeps aren't hammering like desert trucks but as heavy as they are the shocks get worked and fade is still a issue.
Your ticked off that there's posers and mall crawlers...I agree its sometimes laughable a d I won't wheel with someone unprepared for the trails...there are o es we do that if your not on 35s a d dual locked your gonna hang up and get winched...stacking and winching is not my cup of tea I cringe at either when i have to do it....id rather get it sideways and scramble bjt sometimes i have to....winching someone unprepared is irritating and takes up alot of time....
So not to p!$$ on the parade but theres views from all points.
And I use bead locks, 37s, locked front and rear, ten factory rear and rcv front, fox reservoir shocks.....
Last edited by BRUT4CE; Jun 16, 2013 at 03:30 PM.
This I'll jump in on lol...the guys that mount them to the hood or right above windhsield....man the scatter and dust being lit up as well as the hood is a huge hinderence that's the reason in desert racing and pre running we stick them back on the roof abit. It gets rid of light deflection.
But it is their money and it stimulates the economy.....
But it is their money and it stimulates the economy.....
Iwaxmyjimmy!
1st your springs are unseated so there's no down force pushing them to the ground for traction.
2nd reservoir shocks have the IFP in the reservoir allowing for an inch more travel in the same shock
Reservoir shocks also allow for more oil staying cleaner longer and yes jeeps aren't hammering like desert trucks but as heavy as they are the shocks get worked and fade is still a issue.
Your ticked off that there's posers and mall crawlers...I agree its sometimes laughable a d I won't wheel with someone unprepared for the trails...there are o es we do that if your not on 35s a d dual locked your gonna hang up and get winched...stacking and winching is not my cup of tea I cringe at either when i have to do it....id rather get it sideways and scramble bjt sometimes i have to....winching someone unprepared is irritating and takes up alot of time....
So not to p!$$ on the parade but theres views from all points.
And I use bead locks, 37s, locked front and rear, ten factory rear and rcv front, fox reservoir shocks.....
1st your springs are unseated so there's no down force pushing them to the ground for traction.
2nd reservoir shocks have the IFP in the reservoir allowing for an inch more travel in the same shock
Reservoir shocks also allow for more oil staying cleaner longer and yes jeeps aren't hammering like desert trucks but as heavy as they are the shocks get worked and fade is still a issue.
Your ticked off that there's posers and mall crawlers...I agree its sometimes laughable a d I won't wheel with someone unprepared for the trails...there are o es we do that if your not on 35s a d dual locked your gonna hang up and get winched...stacking and winching is not my cup of tea I cringe at either when i have to do it....id rather get it sideways and scramble bjt sometimes i have to....winching someone unprepared is irritating and takes up alot of time....
So not to p!$$ on the parade but theres views from all points.
And I use bead locks, 37s, locked front and rear, ten factory rear and rcv front, fox reservoir shocks.....
Haha wow sounds like someone has too much time on their hands. Lol. Truss and gussets are trendy?? . This was done on a stock d30 with 35" km2's on a trail I would consider moderate-difficult on 35's. Guy has been wheelin for years, knows what he's doing, and doesn't drive like a moron.
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For $130 I'll take my truss and gussets
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For $130 I'll take my truss and gussets
I was more or less annoyed with the fact that if you are building a mall crawler, everyone pushes for you to do this. I still want to see how thick these housing are. I'm not completely sold on the concept. Was his jeep purchased used? Does he have any clue to what it might have been driving like its whole life? I feel like if there was that bad of a housing that more would be done about that from the factory. I know there are factory freaks that just have issues. But also take into account, remember when nobody ran bigger than 33's on a dana 30 in the old wranglers? I definitely do. I feel like 35's are bigger than what most should run. I do plain on eventually trussing my front axle, but I feel like there was some un-lying issues there that happened that caused some of that to start happening. Maybe I'm just to used to wheeling older junk that isn't as fragile lol
I was more or less annoyed with the fact that if you are building a mall crawler, everyone pushes for you to do this. I still want to see how thick these housing are. I'm not completely sold on the concept. Was his jeep purchased used? Does he have any clue to what it might have been driving like its whole life? I feel like if there was that bad of a housing that more would be done about that from the factory. I know there are factory freaks that just have issues. But also take into account, remember when nobody ran bigger than 33's on a dana 30 in the old wranglers? I definitely do. I feel like 35's are bigger than what most should run. I do plain on eventually trussing my front axle, but I feel like there was some un-lying issues there that happened that caused some of that to start happening. Maybe I'm just to used to wheeling older junk that isn't as fragile lol
Now people who spend 100's on meaningless lights, pay $450 for 35's on an 18" wheel, ect ect that I don't get. But to each their own. I will never rag on a jeep I see on the trail, unless the driver is an arrogant ass.
We all had to start somewhere ya know. Some people don't know about setting up shock travel, some just don't care. You don't need a finely tubed machine to have fun. I wheel blues and blacks just fine with my $2500ish of mods consisting of 35's, 15" wheels, truss/gussets, 2.5" budget boost, stock rubicon shocks and a rubicon transfercase, cut stock bumper and Flares
Even though my front springs can come unseated, you're still gaining traction because the tire is on the ground. When I started playing around with shocks trying to figure out how to get the most travel in the shortest distance. I looked at piggy back reservoirs along with remote reservoirs and still the cheap shocks I found with a twin tube design had the shortest collapsed length over both those mentioned above. Also curious how low do you take your bead locks?
Iwaxmyjimmy!
1st your springs are unseated so there's no down force pushing them to the ground for traction.
You don't need more up travel chances are your tires are close to stuffing you meed longer springs and raised lower mounts with longer bumps....lcg builds can only do so much unless someones a progressive long soft spring or coilovers with a sacraficial spring...
You can do 14" shocks but raise lower mounts and move all the junk hanging on fender wells abs etc but you will also look to your drive shaft hitting tranny pan and cross member and track bar will be fun.
Its best to go 3/4 link set up and run sway bars, get rid of track bar...just my thought been doing this (fab/race/prerun)18+ years now. But I could be wrong lol
2nd reservoir shocks have the IFP in the reservoir allowing for an inch more travel in the same shock
Reservoir shocks also allow for more oil staying cleaner longer and yes jeeps aren't hammering like desert trucks but as heavy as they are the shocks get worked and fade is still a issue.
1st your springs are unseated so there's no down force pushing them to the ground for traction.
You don't need more up travel chances are your tires are close to stuffing you meed longer springs and raised lower mounts with longer bumps....lcg builds can only do so much unless someones a progressive long soft spring or coilovers with a sacraficial spring...
You can do 14" shocks but raise lower mounts and move all the junk hanging on fender wells abs etc but you will also look to your drive shaft hitting tranny pan and cross member and track bar will be fun.
Its best to go 3/4 link set up and run sway bars, get rid of track bar...just my thought been doing this (fab/race/prerun)18+ years now. But I could be wrong lol
2nd reservoir shocks have the IFP in the reservoir allowing for an inch more travel in the same shock
Reservoir shocks also allow for more oil staying cleaner longer and yes jeeps aren't hammering like desert trucks but as heavy as they are the shocks get worked and fade is still a issue.
Your ticked off that there's posers and mall crawlers...I agree its sometimes laughable a d I won't wheel with someone unprepared for the trails...there are o es we do that if your not on 35s a d dual locked your gonna hang up and get winched...stacking and winching is not my cup of tea I cringe at either when i have to do it....id rather get it sideways and scramble bjt sometimes i have to....winching someone unprepared is irritating and takes up alot of time....
So not to p!$$ on the parade but theres views from all points.
And I use bead locks, 37s, locked front and rear, ten factory rear and rcv front, fox reservoir shocks.....

So not to p!$$ on the parade but theres views from all points.
And I use bead locks, 37s, locked front and rear, ten factory rear and rcv front, fox reservoir shocks.....

I grew up where 40"-44s were the norm. 35s are really small. Most JKs on here are the Unlimited and have a longer wheel base. If they don't have a bigger lift and tires, they scrape way too much. Short arm lifts become useless over 3.5". The arms are shoved into the frame instead of using the coils like they are intended. How can you not be sold on sleeves? They spread the load out over the entire axle. If this is your idea of a perfect Jeep, enjoy.
Try it un seated with out lockers. With only the weight of the tire, half axle, brakes and the rest of the unsprung weight to provide normal force there isn't a lot of frictional force available to the tire from the ground. While impressive in its own right, you might consider limiting straps as a temporary fix until you get longer springs. I know it seems silly to limit your wheel travel with all the work you have in it, but it is only a small recommendation.


