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Disabling ESP - Easy!

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Old Jul 30, 2009 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by berg
What's all this turn the wheel this way, turn the wheel that way, left foot in , left foot out, shake it all about hokey pokey bs. My 07 manual says push and hold the esp button in for 7 to 10 seconds there will be a chime and the speedometer display will say espoff. This is exactly what happens.

When I shut off the engine and then restart, the esp is on again. as the manuals says it will be.

I always do this in park in 4 hi when I go off road.

Is there something goofy with the 08's and 09's?
If you do this procedure it will permanently disable the ESP unless you do the procedure again. i.e. it won't work 2H, 4H/L.

Following the procedure in the manual only temporally disables ESP and only in 4H. It always works in 2H and is disabled in 4L automatically.
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Old Jul 30, 2009 | 06:46 PM
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Stinger:

Follow the steps above exactly!!!

I know how it feels to not have this thing work. You'll be kicking yourself in the butt when you get it.

Berg:
This is to permanently disable the ESP. No more pushing of buttons and such
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Old Jul 30, 2009 | 07:12 PM
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A few things to note when doing this. if you have an 07 or early 08 you need to go get the computer flashed at the dealership. I tried this forever and it would not work took it to the dealer and they flashed it and I did it in the parking lot. Also I ran the superchips programmer and the ESP was still disabled. This really helped me! Cheers!

Erik
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Old Jul 30, 2009 | 07:13 PM
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OK I get it now.

But I don't see any reason to disable it on the highway or paved roads.

I guess that's just a matter of personel choice.

To me the esp feature works well on standard pavement driving. I'm glad to have it.

I wonder if there could be any liability issues if someone has an accident that injures others and it's found out the esp was disabled.

A good lawyer could bring up negligence issues saying disabling the esp was in fact diabling a safety device.

Something to think about
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by berg
OK I get it now.

But I don't see any reason to disable it on the highway or paved roads.

I guess that's just a matter of personel choice.

To me the esp feature works well on standard pavement driving. I'm glad to have it.

I wonder if there could be any liability issues if someone has an accident that injures others and it's found out the esp was disabled.

A good lawyer could bring up negligence issues saying disabling the esp was in fact diabling a safety device.

Something to think about
I am not sure what your mods are, but after you put big tires & lift on the jeep the ESP has major issues. Will hardly let me take corners unless I am babying it. Also, it really wears on the brakes trying to correct all the time. When mine was stock there was no issue and I didn't mind the ESP and the way it would react, but now it is a nuisance.
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Windshear
If you do this procedure it will permanently disable the ESP unless you do the procedure again. i.e. it won't work 2H, 4H/L.

Following the procedure in the manual only temporally disables ESP and only in 4H. It always works in 2H and is disabled in 4L automatically.
Additionally, the procedure in the manual (pushing the button for 7 seconds) only disables ESP when moving UNDER 40 mph. If you go over that speed ESP renables itself. The best way is to do the hockey pockey dance.
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by berg
I wonder if there could be any liability issues if someone has an accident that injures others and it's found out the esp was disabled.

A good lawyer could bring up negligence issues saying disabling the esp was in fact diabling a safety device.
No. That is crazy talk.
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by saltman
No. That is crazy talk.
You think so? Then how about this scenario.

Suppose you are driving along on a a nice sunny day with the top down on a winding country road. You go into a turn. Suddenly a badger with uncontrollable diarrhea darts in front of you and unleashes a large hershey squirt onto the pavement. Your front wheel slips on it and you go careening broadside into a schoolbus full of nuns and crippled orphans who are just returning from a field trip to the Snickers candy bar factory. The bus explodes into flames a 100 feet high killing everyone onboard and causing melted chocolate, peanuts and nougat from the free Snickers samples that the orphans were given to spew all over the road.

Now the accident investigators examine your Jeep, which isn't damaged except for a crucifix shaped dent in the plastic front bumper and a cracked headlight from a rosary bead, but finds your esp is disabled. They note that if it had been working the front wheel would not have slipped and the worst that would have happed is that you would have had loose runny badger shit splattered on the inside of your fender and on your door.

But now somebody has to be held responsible to clean up all of that chocolate, peanuts and caramel nougat mess off the highway.

Who is it going to be? The badger? Not him. He's off in the woods doing the green apple splatters down a ground hog hole. The nuns? There is an old Hindu saying that goes "you can't get a buck off a dead nun". The dead crippled orphans? They never have any money. That's why they took the free Snicker's bars in the first place. And they're orphans. They don't even have any next of kin that you can sue.

So that leaves you standing there in a puddle of badger shit and melted chocolate with nothing to do but get out your checkbook or start shoveling up the mess yourself.

And while you are shoveling all you will be thinking is "I should of kept my esp on" Along with "Fucking sick badgers"
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Old Aug 1, 2009 | 07:11 AM
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Wow.. Umm.. Wow..

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Old Aug 1, 2009 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by manxam
Wow.. Umm.. Wow..

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