Water Fording with Standard Trans
Is the maximum fording depth in any relation to the use of the clutch in water? I assumed the fording depth only had to do with the air intake location. Is the clutch 19"-30" up from the ground? If so, this would make sense that you could use it up to the specified fording depth. But this isn't taking into consideration that water splashes and moves in waves that are likely to go over the depth when still...
Is the maximum fording depth in any relation to the use of the clutch in water? I assumed the fording depth only had to do with the air intake location. Is the clutch 19"-30" up from the ground? If so, this would make sense that you could use it up to the specified fording depth. But this isn't taking into consideration that water splashes and moves in waves that are likely to go over the depth when still...
Hit that riverbed with confidence. Trail Rated® Jeep® 4x4s feature additional electrical and body sealing, along with a high air intake location for optimum water fording capability.
Note: Do not attempt water fording unless depth is known to be less than 19 inches.
Straight from Jeeps site! So if we hit 18 inches wide ass open and create a 2ft swell I guess you are covered LMAO!
I would just be curious of the specifics...
those that have had clutch issues while fording, how deep? those that say they shift all the time in water...How deep? Seems the depth makes all the difference in the world.
By the way, NASCAR racers shift up and down all the time with out a clutch. Watch the in car cameras while they are on road courses. They shift both up and down with no clutch, just match the RPMs.
I would think that shifting all the time may not be the best thing, but some shifting with no clutch now and again will not show enough wear to make a difference if done correctly. I also would think that the problems caused shifting while water fording would nto be an issue while shifting with out a clutch. It is my understanding that the issue is mud and grit getting in between the clutch and the flywheel chewing things up. If there is no clutch disengagement, then that would not be an issue.
just my .02
those that have had clutch issues while fording, how deep? those that say they shift all the time in water...How deep? Seems the depth makes all the difference in the world.
By the way, NASCAR racers shift up and down all the time with out a clutch. Watch the in car cameras while they are on road courses. They shift both up and down with no clutch, just match the RPMs.
I would think that shifting all the time may not be the best thing, but some shifting with no clutch now and again will not show enough wear to make a difference if done correctly. I also would think that the problems caused shifting while water fording would nto be an issue while shifting with out a clutch. It is my understanding that the issue is mud and grit getting in between the clutch and the flywheel chewing things up. If there is no clutch disengagement, then that would not be an issue.
just my .02
That all depends on the dealer. Believe it or not. But a good friend had his alternator replaced under warranty. It crapped out because of all the mud he kept going through. But I'm sure a lot of dealers wouldn't have warrantied that.
You never know until you try. Obviously if you run into a tree they won't warranty that.
I shift without using the clutch all the time. after second gear its just a matter of liftin my toe up with the revs... oh thats on my motorcycle.... same thing goes with any tranny though.. 1-2 you need to use the clutch, 2-? you shouldnt have to (not saying not to use the clutch though)
Sheesh!
Why don't those of you that don't believe in clutchless shifting go try it. It's not that damn hard.
After a while, You'll be doing it all the time, trying to see how good you can slide it in gear without any resistance.
Why don't those of you that don't believe in clutchless shifting go try it. It's not that damn hard.
After a while, You'll be doing it all the time, trying to see how good you can slide it in gear without any resistance.
I haven't found anything that I cannot shift without using the clutch....with NO grinding except on start off. Although starting off without the clutch certainly isn't good for anything, shifting without it is easy as pie.




