Why all the autos?
I too have an auto but not by choice. I found it hard to find a used Rubicon with a stick that would bring down my $700+ payment on my ex six speed stick diesel megacab but when the auto goes out it's getting a six speed.
i have an auto because of my knee. to add to previous posts the auto will have a larger towing capacity vs stick until you get into big rigs and that is because they have twin counter shafts. the stick shifts in vehicles below 1 ton only have one counter shaft. so you are driving the output shaft from a couple of small teeth the twin counter shaft multiplies the surface area. i hope this helps
Always had a manual.
I complained my 08 JKU stick would jump around like a cat on a hot tin roof when hitting bumps, wife said the damn thing almost broke her wrist wheeling it moved so much. They said "normal".
Tested a 2012 manual, same deal.
Auto is a luxury/far smoother - I'll never go w/out again, plus it's faster in every way.
Yea, stick is fun, see my sig.
I complained my 08 JKU stick would jump around like a cat on a hot tin roof when hitting bumps, wife said the damn thing almost broke her wrist wheeling it moved so much. They said "normal".
Tested a 2012 manual, same deal.
Auto is a luxury/far smoother - I'll never go w/out again, plus it's faster in every way.
Yea, stick is fun, see my sig.
I have an auto because I didn't want the hassle of a manual. I also have a c6zo6 and would not buy that in auto even if it was an option- would likely be a faster option. My jeep is my DD and weekend cruiser/beach vehicle. I just dont see the fun in rowing thru the gears in anything but a sports car. Personal preference. I am glad that manual is an option on the JK but I just not something I wanted.
I actually spend the better part of the day driving 4 different JK's (2 2011's and 2 2012's, one manual and auto each). The 2012 auto was simply a better performer than the 2012 manual. I've owned 7 Jeeps all of them manuals. I went to the dealership literally expecting to come home with a manual 2012 model. The auto just sold me.
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After 134,000 miles in our '07 6 speed our '12 auto will be an interesting change.
I did the auto vs manual debate when buying my 2012. The 2011 I traded was a 6 speed and I could not stand the hill assist feature that was built in. It actually caused me to stall a couple of times in traffic when taking off the rpms would just sit at around 2-300 for no reason at all and finally the damn thing would just stall out. Embarrassing as hell! I have driven manuals for 20+ years and I could have picked either when I bought my 2012 and went with the auto. It just feels more at home with the new motor compared to the 6 speeds I drove. I really am liking it a lot now that I own it. Plus this new tranny can stand up to a lot of horsepower (600-700 est on stock internals) which makes me feel that much more confident in it!
All the autos are out there because the reality is they're better than manuals for what our Jeeps are likely used for.
Sitting in traffic during commutes, daily grinds with families, off road in difficult terrain, you name it the auto is more than adequate and likely better than the stick.
It used to be that standards were more efficient or faster, but the advent of lockup torque converters and electronic engine management gas negated all of that. In a computer controlled environment where every system in the car is intertwined, the driver is the weakest link, and the auto is more ideally suited.
Having said that, I still drive a stick, and hopefully always will. Driving is one of the simple pleasures I have in my life, and rowing through the gears makes it that much better for me.
Does traffic here in SoCal suck? Absolutely. Is it more difficult to wheel? Definitely. Does it matter to me? Nope. It's fun to me, and hopefully there will always be an option for manuals for the vehicles I want to drive.
Sitting in traffic during commutes, daily grinds with families, off road in difficult terrain, you name it the auto is more than adequate and likely better than the stick.
It used to be that standards were more efficient or faster, but the advent of lockup torque converters and electronic engine management gas negated all of that. In a computer controlled environment where every system in the car is intertwined, the driver is the weakest link, and the auto is more ideally suited.
Having said that, I still drive a stick, and hopefully always will. Driving is one of the simple pleasures I have in my life, and rowing through the gears makes it that much better for me.
Does traffic here in SoCal suck? Absolutely. Is it more difficult to wheel? Definitely. Does it matter to me? Nope. It's fun to me, and hopefully there will always be an option for manuals for the vehicles I want to drive.
I also personally think that society today is turning people in to being lazy and making people take the easy way all the time with all the electronics and new technology people are forgetting the basics i like manual because of the challenge and I do feel more connected as well as it is built more robust then the automatic



