I prefer auto for a number of reasons. You don't have to worry about a clutches when your in the water, or ever changing a worn out clutch. I also DD my Jeep and don't want to mess with shifting. It's one more distraction I need to worry about. I already play music and use the GPS on my iPhone constantly.

 

Dude, I always thought you had a manual for some reason!

 

I've had both manuals and autos.
I prefer autos because I like to drink coffee, while driving, and it's much easier.
Most importantly, my wife complains, when I get any vehicle that isn't automatic.

 

Here's your key phrase you stated, we both would "rather".....the point you totally missed is that the OP criticized automatics as being for soccer mom's and mall crawlers and NOT for rock crawling and that is ABSOLUTELY NOT true. YOU have your preference and others have their preference, but in the end BOTH have their advantages for rock crawling and with all the key points you tried to make with your 5.13's and 40's mumbo jumbo....neither of those items come from the factory with the 6-Speed Manual trans Rubicon, the manual trans comes in the Rubicon with a 4.10, which can't be used as you described for the 2 foot operation you described. So all the points you are trying to make about not having to use the clutch with your 40's and 5.13's is a mute point to the conversation, it's further a mute point in regards to your "preference" because you are comparing a manual with 40's and a 5.13 to an Automatic with 37's and 5.38's, so you make a totally apples to oranges comparison and then say you and your wife "Prefer" the manual while totally ignoring the other key differences in the setups and act like you're making an apples/apples comparison, where they are totally different . At least put the same size tires on both rigs if you're going to just focus on the transmission as being your preferred rock crawler.

 

Mute; silent; refraining from speech or utterance.

Moot; open to discussion or debate; debatable; doubtful: a moot point.

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Thanks for the correction.....it's always good to have a English/Grammar instructor in the forums with a red pen, because I tend to make a lot of mistakes in those areas. So if you could follow me around in these forums and point out ALL my Grammar mistakes, it would be greatly appreciated.

BTW, you missed one when planman spelled this word "decending" earlier, and I quoted him and made the correction without pointing out the mistake. So you seem a little selective with your red pen.

 

The Charges;
Lazy
Wearing soccer mom underwear

The Plea;
Guilty
Guilty

The Sentence;
Must drink beer
Must only drive to and from mall in the mud

 

Wait a minute??? Wasn't the OP talking about the Auto in regards to rock crawling? So, now we're discussing the over drive gear in the the auto for rock crawling? Or is this just another apples to oranges comparison you're trying to throw into the discussion, or are you saying you use the OD gear in rock crawling?

How about this? Try to focus the discussion on the key points in regards to the benefits/disadvantages of each with the options each comes from the factory in regards to the use which is being discussed, which happens to be rock crawling. All these side tangents with items that don't pertain to the discussion and these apples to oranges comparisons are getting hard to follow.

I'm in total agreement with the points you're making....they just don't pertain to this discussion. Heck...I wanted a V-8 option and the ability to put 37's from the factory. It just wasn't available.

 

I do not have an answer for you. I have noticed that about 25 percent of the vehicles on eBay are standards. Being a truck driver by trade I personally prefer a stick. I can only end on this note. Without starting the whole which is better debate. You learn to drive with a stick. You learn to ride with an auto.

 

Man......I don't know about the rest of you, but this is getting REALLY old. Now us auto drivers are lazy and don't know how to wheel....??? The thing is, I know much of these type of comments are coming from kids that really just learned to DRIVE, much less a stick, and now they've got it ALL figured out. They seem to forget that a lot of us were driving sticks before their moms and dads were even dating, and were yet even a glimmer in their eyes. But for sure they are here to tell us all about the virtues of owning a manual over an auto... Understand kiddos, many of us have been driving twice as long as you are old, and that being in both manual, auto, and oh....need I forget......column...."SAY WHAT???"... Do even half of you even know what I'm talking about when I say that? I doubt it.

The fact of the matter is, in THIS day in age, the idea of owning a manual or auto is strictly preference. I learned to drive in a CJ5 and have owned a few other jeeps, all with manuals. At this time in my life I just preferred owning an auto. Not "because" it is an auto, it's "easy", or that I don't care about "control" or even that I'm "lazy", but because I "had" a knee problem, and know how far autos have come and how good they are in fact to wheel with. Again......there is a reason ATVs are all automatics. So please don't claim to understand who I am and if know anything about wheeling and transmissions, or if I'm lazy or not. Before a lot of you kids feel the need to jump in there and tell us ALL about owning a manual over an auto......do yourself a favor and take a step back first before attempting to insert your foot in your mouth.

I really doubt VERY much that manual trannys are going to go by the wayside anytime soon....there are still millions of them on the road and still being build...by jeep or otherwise. I probably wouldn't have said all this but I feel it was just another way for the op to bad mouth us auto drivers again, and not really out of concern for the highly coveted manual transmission. And if they do go away, then so be it. Sorry. It's the way of the world so get over it. Nobody ever said progress was always good. I myself think I was born a hundred years too late.

Just for the record I TOTALLY believe everybody should know how to drive a stick. Then you can pretty much drive anything they put you in. That being said..... Can we all just move on already...???