I was kinda digging for more than just the X/Rubi question, and I think I got more outta you's guy's. Personally I could really care less. When we are out on the trails we just like to see other jeeps. We went wheeling recently down santa maria area. The only other streetable vehicle was a land rover. Ans as we decesended back down the trail I could see the lines it was taking up the mountain. He avoided every obstacle. I was letting my wife drive back down and I just told her to stay opposite of their tracks to make it interesting.