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Old Aug 13, 2013 | 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by JK Inspired
I'm expecting the REAL Dr. Phil to chime in any moment now.
+1 lol

Again, I'm spending the money. Not concerned about a whopping 7k in student loans.
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Old Aug 13, 2013 | 07:21 AM
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BTW, what are the dimensions of the 2008 SAHARA 18 inch wheel (width, offset, backspacing)?
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Old Aug 13, 2013 | 07:29 AM
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The aev procal is a programmer, not a tuner. It will recalibrate the speedo and shift points for the bigger tires, but does not affect the actual performance like the more expensive tuners will. (superchips/diablo/etc)

A body lift will be fine if you want more clearance for the tires without the added expense that goes along with a taller suspension lift.

For the power concerns, do some more research to find the actual running height you can expect from those tires, then start plugging numbers into the chart in the faq's. Once you have an OD On rpm, divide it by .69 to find the OD Off rpm.

For example:
auto, 3.73, 34" = 1781 rpm @ 70
1781 / .69 = 2581 rpm @ 70 (OD Off)

And for comparison:
auto, 5.38, 34" = 2569 rpm @ 70 (OD On)

So with 3.73's, if you turn od off, you have an equivalent rpm to 5.38's with od on. Re-gearing would obviously be better, but od off can be liveable.
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Old Aug 13, 2013 | 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by JK Inspired
BTW, what are the dimensions of the 2008 SAHARA 18 inch wheel (width, offset, backspacing)?
Some info is listed in the faq's at the top of this modified area.
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Old Aug 13, 2013 | 07:31 AM
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It partly depends on your major.

My son will graduate with a BS in computer science in less than 3 years from a college where 100% if last year's CS graduates were placed before graduation, with an average starting salary of about $70k. If he goes to school year round, he can graduate with a dual BS and masters in CS with an average starting salary over $90k.

I wouldn't have a problem with him spending some student loan money that resulted in cumulative student loans that equal 10% of his expected 1st year salary.

Now, if he was in a major or college where the placement of seniors wasn't near 100%, and the average starting salary was below $40k, I'd tell in it would be foolish to accumulate $7k in student loan money and spend some on jeep parts.

Furthermore, taxpayers should not subsidize student loans and rates for students who don't graduate on time or who don't use the money to accelerate finishing their degree and entering the workforce.

Cumulative student loans should be capped to be no more than 50% of the average first year starting salary for a student's given major at their specific college--averaged down for those grads who are not hired within 6 months of graduation.


With all that said, how you allocate money for upgrades depends on how you use your rig.

What % of the time is on road vs off road?

How many on road miles does it get driven in a year?

What kind and frequency of off roading?

Do you do your own installs?

How long will you keep the jeep?

Is it your only vehicle?

What is the purpose for the incremental improvement from the desiree modification?

What other consequences (additional modification) will be needed as a result of the next planned mod?


Also, know that you can buy used parts for 50% of the cost of new, and modifications installed on your rig are only worth about 10% of new when you sell your rig.


Instead of buying new tires, you can buy a set of near new tires and wheels for less than the cost of just the new tires.

If you are only buying a lift to clear larger tires and don't off road much, a coil spacer lift is more than adequate. You can usually pick them up used for 50% of new--if you are on a budget.
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Old Aug 13, 2013 | 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by nthinuf

Some info is listed in the faq's at the top of this modified area.
What's thee offset, pancake?
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Old Aug 13, 2013 | 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by JK Inspired

What's thee offset, pancake?
+44 I assume?
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Old Aug 13, 2013 | 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by JK Inspired
+44 I assume?
You know what they say about assuming.
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Old Aug 13, 2013 | 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by kh202

You know what they say about assuming.
Does your Socrates inspired post mean that they ARE +44?
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Old Aug 13, 2013 | 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by JK Inspired
Does your Socrates inspired post mean that they ARE +44?

Both are 7.5" wide with 6.25" backspacing. That's all i've got
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