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Old Jan 20, 2016 | 05:01 PM
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I also disagree, I do have a little different kind of a Jeep but it handles like a dream on road with coil overs in front, I have leaf springs in the rear which allows me to not have to run a sway bar. How do you think these guys do 100 MPH through the desert with long travel coil overs ? They use sway bars front and rear to limit the "sway".
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Old Jan 21, 2016 | 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by randomhero199
I'm new to the forum, looking at buying or building a JKU. I've owned desert prerunners, vehicles with sway-away, fox and king coilovers, so I'm familiar with them to an extent.

My question is, is the cost worth the hype? It seems like going with a nicely sorted traditional coil spring long arm lift is roughly half the $$. The other thing I've noticed after looking at thousands of photos, very few JKU's are actually running these kits, and most of them that are running coilovers are very serious builds. The issue I can see with coilovers cost wise is at at first glance it doesn't seem bad, roughly $4500 for most kits... BUT doesnt' include any arms, bump stops, steering, track arms - nada! That really drives the cost up to have a similar setup as a traditional coil spring kit.

I'm sure some of it depends on your plans. Mine are selling our newer RZR XP1k-4 door and having the jeep replace it, but also be a DD. I'm wanting to do a couple 5-12 days trips this year, mainly Continental Divide area, and also some of the off-road parks in Texas, but not looking to beat the hell out of a $50k jeep (if that makes sense).

The the on-road, and off-road really that much better with a coilover setup?
Check this out: http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billav...lovers/Part_2/

I agree with everyone else, sway bars help with control. Just like it would on any other vehicle on the road.
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Old Jan 24, 2016 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Asinine
I disagree with this, too. My JK on coilovers is solid on the freeway and handles the corners superbly with minimum sway, yet soaks up the bumps well and articulates great off-road. The system is a little firm below 30mph, but at higher speeds, it rides and drives fantastic.

My only complaints are related to the EVO bolt-on kits themselves. If I get a redo, I'll likely go weld-on, or try the kits from Rebel or Icon. Otherwise, I love the way my JK drives and I'd say coilovers are well worth it.
Why would you go a different route? Would you use something like Synergy weld on brackets ?
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Old Jan 25, 2016 | 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by randomhero199
Why would you go a different route? Would you use something like Synergy weld on brackets ?
I get these loud thunks over hard bumps, which weren't there with the coil/shock setup.
Backspacing requirements limit wheel choices. I knew it going in, but still annoying.
EVO's bolt-on system uses the same spring rates top and bottom. Ideally, different spring rates should be installed, so I'm not reaping the full benefit of coilovers.
The cost difference between bolt-on and weld-on isn't significant, maybe $500-$1000 depending on the final solution. Overcoming the fear of cutting off your coil buckets and welding your frame is really the gating factor.

Don't misunderstand, I'm more than pleased with the EVO bolt-on kits. These are all minor issues to me that I'm not going spend the money to address.

Likely Synergy or EVO DTD. The DTD has an internal bumpstop, so it works out to not much more than a front coilover kit plus King bumpstops, but you don't realize it until you do the math.
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Old Feb 3, 2016 | 10:19 AM
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I perceive the adjustablity and tuning of coilovers to be just as important as the amount of travel provided. This is especially true for tire size and weight additions from upgrades done in stages. My JKUR is my DD and also have to tow it 4-down thousands of miles behind my motorhome. Not sure that I want to be towing and tooling it around with 37's, so I do not feel that I need 14" or more of travel nor do I plan on doing the Rubicon Trail. We have spent many weeks at Anzo Borrego's 500 miles of offroad trails and heck a Stock JKUR, and good skills can handle 99% of it. Coral Canyon is a different story.

Even after spending hours and days, studying everything out there, I am still going with the EVO bolt on Coil Overs because; first it meets my needs (travel & ride), second it can be adjusted and tuned, third I get to keep my stock exhaust / not cut into the body and last I can install it myself and then later while I am traveling have the guy I trust weld the brackets while he is installing my front weld on gussets. Re torquing the bolts every few thousand miles is ridiculous. With this I can easily run 35's with stock fenders or if things change I can add the Poison Spider flat fenders that I lkie with 37's, the adjustment is there and not locked to one setup.

Also, being a Newbe that loved every minute of offroading, who know where my project will end up.

Summary of my WIP JKUR
a) cut pinch seam
b) install Rock Slide Step Sliders (on their way)
c) EVO Coilover - front and rear - still undecided on front and rear drive shafts and control arms.
d) New wheels and 35's - still shopping on this one.
e) TerraFlex or Rugged Ridge Hinged Tire Carrier
f) Rock Hard or River Raider complete skid system.

Headed to SEMA this year for business and would love to wait to look there, but I am tooooo impatient and want it finished by then.
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Old Feb 3, 2016 | 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Asinine
I get these loud thunks over hard bumps, which weren't there with the coil/shock setup.
Backspacing requirements limit wheel choices. I knew it going in, but still annoying.
EVO's bolt-on system uses the same spring rates top and bottom. Ideally, different spring rates should be installed, so I'm not reaping the full benefit of coilovers.
The cost difference between bolt-on and weld-on isn't significant, maybe $500-$1000 depending on the final solution. Overcoming the fear of cutting off your coil buckets and welding your frame is really the gating factor.

Don't misunderstand, I'm more than pleased with the EVO bolt-on kits. These are all minor issues to me that I'm not going spend the money to address.

Likely Synergy or EVO DTD. The DTD has an internal bumpstop, so it works out to not much more than a front coilover kit plus King bumpstops, but you don't realize it until you do the math.
The same rate coils doesnt not matter as you take 2 springs at 250 lbs when together its 125 then becomes 250 when it becomes one coil after hitting the slider stop. It could be better though imo. Final rate is coil rating x coil rating divided by the 2 coil rates conbined

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Old Feb 3, 2016 | 07:16 PM
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Pretty awesome fab work... Pulled the trigger on a rubicon today, still can't decide which route to go
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Old Feb 4, 2016 | 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Invest2m4
Agree. I have 16s all around. Top of my towers are about even with the top of the engine compartment. I run 4" of lift and have 7" of uptravel.

It really wasn't that much work to make them fit and this was on a 2013, so not as much room in the engine area.




Your front coilover setup looks good. I particularly like the strut bar that connects the two towers together. Who makes that kit or did you fab it yourself?
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Old Feb 4, 2016 | 05:36 AM
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Originally Posted by foxsat71

Your front coilover setup looks good. I particularly like the strut bar that connects the two towers together. Who makes that kit or did you fab it yourself?
We each fabbed our own.
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Old Feb 4, 2016 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by foxsat71
Your front coilover setup looks good. I particularly like the strut bar that connects the two towers together. Who makes that kit or did you fab it yourself?
As Maertz stated. Strut tower bar was simple. Just bent 1.5" OD DOM and used some cheap tube flanges from ruff stuff. The towers I got from TMR Customs. I needed really tall towers and didn't want to deal with hoops, so I bought those.

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