Which driveshaft
I love itIf I recall, the last time you went to the mall, you rolled your JK 3 times

My Coast DS didn't come with the big obnoxious stickers either so I called them and Bill sent me an entire bag of all the Coast stickers you could ever want!

If you are serious and want one Sully just drop me a pm with your address and I'll send you a bunch of them or bring them to the next SNG.
Originally Posted by jeep2007
........ and it clearly outlines what companies make his joints including Spicer, Neapco and Rockford.
I have Woods quoted as saying this,
" Our universal joints are, more or less, a reverse engineered Spicer universal joint with the grease fitting relocated for ease of service and increased strength."
Now we all know what "reversed engineered" means = cheap knock-off crap.
It's amazing what pops up when I Yahoo searched " Tom Woods driveshaft failure".
Last edited by Absolute; Jan 10, 2012 at 12:53 PM.
I too was entertained. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsqJFIJ5lLs
...AND I now know which driveshafts to get.
...AND I now know which driveshafts to get.
I have experience with lunch, and I know that through experience that what you had was not a grilled cheese sandwhich. Did it actually involve a grill, oh no I'm sure it didn't. In fact I can claim with almost 100% accuracy through all my years of having "grilled cheese" sandwhiches that what you had, my friend, was indeed a pan fried sandwhich. And too being even more accurate, it was a pan browned sandwhich. Unless of course you can't cook for squat and actually burnt said sandwhich.
But what do I know, other than my 43 years of remembered lunch experience.
BrianH
But what do I know, other than my 43 years of remembered lunch experience.
BrianH
You sure you want to stand by this statement?
I have Woods quoted as saying this,
" Our universal joints are, more or less, a reverse engineered Spicer universal joint with the grease fitting relocated for ease of service and increased strength."
Now we all know what "reversed engineered" means = cheap knock-off crap.
It's amazing what pops up when I Yahoo searched " Tom Woods driveshaft failure".
I have Woods quoted as saying this,
" Our universal joints are, more or less, a reverse engineered Spicer universal joint with the grease fitting relocated for ease of service and increased strength."
Now we all know what "reversed engineered" means = cheap knock-off crap.
It's amazing what pops up when I Yahoo searched " Tom Woods driveshaft failure".
As I stated earlier, being in the aircraft industry a lot of parts we buy/use are "reverse Engineered" and more often then not as good or better then the factory part. Not to mention the quality they have to pass from the FAA to become a PMA approved part. They are produced/sold at a significantly reduced price. Being that the quality of car parts are NOT met with such standards, some after market parts are not preferred over OEM. Yes, Spicer and Neapco are great joints but I have not seen failures of the Woods joints, so I do not run the others.
This thread reminds me of the AEV lower control arm drop brackets where someone doesn't agree with WOL or others and it becomes a "you see no wrong, your a fan boy of a vendor". It's amazing when you search "Benchmark products" and see all the negative, but guys still buy from them and still have good experiences. Same here. I like um, you don't.
Lastly, I have seen and read where WOL wheels and do not in the least down play it. But I wheel like the other 60,000 on here and have yet to have any issues with what I run and have my decisions on what I install and stand behind it it it fails.
I have experience with lunch, and I know that through experience that what you had was not a grilled cheese sandwhich. Did it actually involve a grill, oh no I'm sure it didn't. In fact I can claim with almost 100% accuracy through all my years of having "grilled cheese" sandwhiches that what you had, my friend, was indeed a pan fried sandwhich. And too being even more accurate, it was a pan browned sandwhich. Unless of course you can't cook for squat and actually burnt said sandwhich.
But what do I know, other than my 43 years of remembered lunch experience.
BrianH
But what do I know, other than my 43 years of remembered lunch experience.
BrianH
I have experience with lunch, and I know that through experience that what you had was not a grilled cheese sandwhich. Did it actually involve a grill, oh no I'm sure it didn't. In fact I can claim with almost 100% accuracy through all my years of having "grilled cheese" sandwhiches that what you had, my friend, was indeed a pan fried sandwhich. And too being even more accurate, it was a pan browned sandwhich. Unless of course you can't cook for squat and actually burnt said sandwhich.
But what do I know, other than my 43 years of remembered lunch experience.
BrianH
But what do I know, other than my 43 years of remembered lunch experience.
BrianH
In regards to my grilled cheese sandwich which you question as not being such, and more so blatantly regard to as a "pan fried" sandwich. These comments are hurtful, and disrespects the entire Grilled Cheese Community and shows your knowledge of only being an "internet grill cheeser". I would not expect you to know that I have a full sponsorship by Calphalon Panini Grills (photo evidence provided), it is the only grill I deem suitable for my hardcore cheesing and the only builder that fully discloses all materials sourced in its construction (caveat: because of the rules of my contract I cannot disclose these materials or sources). I would expect that in your 43 years of so called "lunching experience" you have experienced only lesser quality made sandwiches by your, laughable at best, "PAN FRIED" comment. This narrowly and definitively defines your experiences. I hope only to meet you along the grill one day and we shall then settle this like gentlemen. Good day to you and your "pan"
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Funny, you specifically stated that "A Woody does NOT have cheap chinese joints" like is was some kind of fact and now all of a sudden, you're saying only he knows where they are made. Being that you also said "Whatever you chose, talk to the rep first", I would have thought that you would practice what you preach but of course, you're just like all the other fanboys who are content just repeating what you read not what you know. 
I realize that you're the kind of guy who thinks that swearing will help to get your point across but, if you just took the time to do your homework, you might find that you'll have something useful to say as opposed to just repeating what you read.
Never said that it did. In fact, I do believe I specifically stated that they are "just sales slicks but, you can take what you want from it. I know what I've seen on the trail and that's one u-joint tends to fail time and time again and another doesn't." My only point for posting them up was to show that Spicer is the manufacturer of choice when it comes to OE Jeep parts and that they took the time to at least demonstrate why they are the best. You said that you "use products that you feel are the best value, reliability and serve your needs. Not because Billy Bob says he does" and honestly, I don't know how you could have come to that conclusion based on what little is said on Tom Woods website. Of course, you are also the one who said that you should "talk to the rep first" and I can only assume that is the only thing you did. Of course, whatever he says has gotta be true.
And as I stated earlier, I once stayed at a Holiday Inn Express 
And, that's because like that thread and all the fanboys who participated on it, you have yet to make a compelling argument about anything. The most you've done is repeat what you've read and not what you know. You make accusations, shoot off your mouth like you know what you're talking about and declair what you say as being "truth" and "fact" when in fact, you know nothing. Of course, when all this is pointed out to you, you try and change your tune and suggest that you're entitled to your "opinion" - like that's even remotely the same thing. Yes, you are a fanboy of Tom Woods and you clearly can see no wrong in anything he does.
It's amazing that when you search for "Benchmark Designs", they are no longer a sponsor here!! Why is that? Oh, could it be that I TERMINATED his sponsorship for poor customer service? Oh my, that's right, greedy ol' me not only DECLINED Tom Woods money but, also Benchmarks as well. God forbid that I would turn away money because a manufacture uses poorly made parts or provides shoddy customer service. 
Of couse you do and I have no doubts that you're one hell of a badass wheeler and one that only wheels the hardest hardcore trails around and no less than 30 times a month. If you've actually seen or read anything about me wheeling, you should do what you do best and don't believe it. Certainly, nothing that can be associated with me can be true.
This whole fucking thread has not proved where they're made.
Seeing a cute sales pitch brochure from Spicer does not buy me a failure prove U joint nor does it guarantee it being made in the USA. So, I run what I have confidence in.
As I stated earlier, being in the aircraft industry a lot of parts we buy/use are "reverse Engineered" and more often then not as good or better then the factory part. Not to mention the quality they have to pass from the FAA to become a PMA approved part. They are produced/sold at a significantly reduced price. Being that the quality of car parts are NOT met with such standards, some after market parts are not preferred over OEM. Yes, Spicer and Neapco are great joints but I have not seen failures of the Woods joints, so I do not run the others.
And as I stated earlier, I once stayed at a Holiday Inn Express
This thread reminds me of the AEV lower control arm drop brackets where someone doesn't agree with WOL or others and it becomes a "you see no wrong, your a fan boy of a vendor".
It's amazing when you search "Benchmark products" and see all the negative, but guys still buy from them and still have good experiences. Same here. I like um, you don't.
Lastly, I have seen and read where WOL wheels and do not in the least down play it. But I wheel like the other 60,000 on here and have yet to have any issues with what I run and have my decisions on what I install and stand behind it it it fails.
Last edited by wayoflife; Jan 10, 2012 at 09:11 PM.


