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Old Jun 1, 2015 | 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by k0260
.....Speed bumps are a nice addition if you're looking for some relief to your JK that is not a trailered full blown rock crawler. Smaller whoops, some high speed washboard, hard drops/slips on both front wheels or one, they do their job nicely......
Except for the most extreme, my Jeep goes through varied terrain, from woody mountainous trails to desert (which includes rocks & steps), plus some jumps on bad roads at higher speed.

Shortly after installing the lift, I needed better bump stops.
Reliability is important to me, and so is minimal maintenance.
So, I read, and checked which ones hold up and is problem-less.
The search result was that gas/hydraulic bump stops require maintenance - checking the pressure and inflating if necessary.
The Teraflex ones had been doing their job just fine for a few avid offroaders over here, along a few years, including on Jeeps that regularly rock-crawl. They cannot leak and require zero maintenance.
I've had them for about 2 yrs, they had been hit pretty much, so far no problem.
Some modern synthetic materials can be very durable.

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Old Jun 1, 2015 | 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by k0260
Abiding by the 'don't knock it til you've tried it' ideology, and to hopefully avoid a pissing contest, here's my first hand real world experience and OPINION on running speed bumps... Are they essentially over priced pretty cans of bump foam?- I agree with that. Will a hydraulic or air bump offer more and better quality results? Yep. Are they prone to failure/break down?- sure, what isn't, only I personally have yet to hear any first hand experience and pics of destruction. Are they any different or better than say sumo spring foam bumps or oe bumps?-of course. Speed bumps are a nice addition if you're looking for, some relief to your JK that is not a trailered full blown rock crawler. Smaller whoops, some high speed washboard, hard drops/slips on both front wheels or one, they do their job nicely. My opinion here is based on running speed bumps only on the front, rear I run only Sumo spring upper bumps.
I dont have any pics of carnage from either. I havent ran both, but have ran a few of competition trails and pre runs in rigs with each set ups. One of the local racers when i was out there even ran 600 psi in his king bumpstops for a few races with no failures... My main point is just that there overpriced and dont perform as well as similarly priced options. Yes king and such you can spend more and may get even better quality than others. You can get true air bumps at all four corners with cans for around 450 to 1k plus easily. Its like having another shock in your system with alot of tuning options. A speed bump is not near as effective from what ive seen and offers no customization. Are they better than stock yes but weather there worth the coin id say no way..i guess i should also remember the forum im on and realize alot of guys will pay a top notch premium for ease of install. Hell even when most wont even install on there own. So yes they are alot easier to install there's a win for them i suppose.

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Old Jun 1, 2015 | 11:40 AM
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As I mentioned, I am running all teraflex under the jeep. I believe in their products and even more so for the customer service they provide. Everyone else can run their KINGS, etc. Being a "know it all" does not make you right. Been there done that before, in the lighting world. I run "unconventional" products in lighting with awesome results, and when I visually see the difference in two products, I say so. I get called out because a self proclaimed "expert" says they don't work, but my eyes show me they do.

I am used to "bucking the system" in the off road world and im 100 percent satisfied with my choice of going with teraflex as a suspension provider.
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Old Jun 1, 2015 | 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Maertz
I dont have any pics of carnage from either. I havent ran both, but have ran a few of competition trails and pre runs in rigs with each set ups. One of the local racers when i was out there even ran 600 psi in his king bumpstops for a few races with no failures... My main point is just that there overpriced and dont perform as well as similarly priced options. Yes king and such you can spend more and may get even better quality than others. You can get true air bumps at all four corners with cans for around 450 to 1k plus easily. Its like having another shock in your system with alot of tuning options. A speed bump is not near as effective from what ive seen and offers no customization. Are they better than stock yes but weather there worth the coin id say no way..i guess i should also remember the forum im on and realize alot of guys will pay a top notch premium for ease of install. Hell even when most wont even install on there own. So yes they are alot easier to install there's a win for them i suppose.
I hear ya, my opinion is just that, opinion with what experience I've had. Not aimed at anyone, nor for or against any posts here.
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Old Jun 1, 2015 | 06:07 PM
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I would go less backspacing like 3.5 or so if you ever plan on doing long arm lift kit down the road. Rest looks like a good plan. i went down to 15 inch rims but i just always like the more rubber look and it helps in the mud/sand

Unless your ready to sink a lot of money into the suspension just do a leveling kit and enjoy it. Factory jk suspension is very good , the joints are better than a lot of the aftermarket, and by wheeling it this way you will figure out what you want and what you need for your driving areas and style.
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Old Jun 2, 2015 | 05:50 AM
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Its your jeep and your money, I don't have a dime in it but YOU are the one that post up asking for advise on your choices. IF you can't take the criticism of something you are looking at don't post up asking for opinions. IF you want to be locked into one company and buy inferior products just because it has their name on it fine by me. Restating marketing points and coming up with one guy that runs them on a W.E Rock (low speed rock crawling comp) stock runner is a pretty weak argument. I will keep an eye out at KOTH next year as they should be all the rage being maintenance free. The maintenance of hydraulic bumps is also hype posted by those that don't run them, they take about the same amount of maintenance os a hydraulic shock and we all know how often we are out doing maintenance on our shocks.

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Old Jun 2, 2015 | 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Maertz
I am merely saying theres a reason the speed bumps are within the dirt riots stock mod class specs lol hydraulic/air not allowed but teraflex speed bumps they dont care if you run those or other "stock" rubber bumpstops. Keep in mind there "awesome" in your eyes but he still also needs rubber bumps on his control arms...
I asked Jason about his Speed Bumps yesterday. By class rules he can only run a max 2" rubber/foam bump stop, which isn't enough travel for the speeds they run. Hence the supplemental bumps on the control arms. He said 3"-4" Speed Bumps would be ideal but he can't run them. Those Speed Bumps pictured have been thrashed, multiple KoHs and 20+ races without a single failure. YES, he said, in a racer air/hydraulic is ideal, but for up to extreme hard core racing the Speed Bumps get the job done.

Edit to add: I didn't say Speed Bumps were "awesome", I said they work and gave a serious example. To this point no one has produced a SINGLE example of a Speed Bump failure, so as I saaid, produce some pics and examples or it didn't happen. I would conclude by suggesting the Teraflex hate be taken over to the Way-A-Dis pre-pubescent wanking forum where it belongs.

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Old Jun 2, 2015 | 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by TheDirtman
Its your jeep and your money, I don't have a dime in it but YOU are the one that post up asking for advise on your choices. IF you can't take the criticism of something you are looking at don't post up asking for opinions. IF you want to be locked into one company and buy inferior products just because it has their name on it fine by me. Restating marketing points and coming up with one guy that runs them on a W.E Rock (low speed rock crawling comp) stock runner is a pretty weak argument. I will keep an eye out at KOTH next year as they should be all the rage being maintenance free. The maintenance of hydraulic bumps is also hype posted by those that don't run them, they take about the same amount of maintenance os a hydraulic shock and we all know how often we are out doing maintenance on our shocks.

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FYI, I was NOT asking your opinion, I was stating to the OP what I am doing personally and how well that Teraflex products work. NO windshield banners here. YOU were the one that flew in shitting on The speed bumps. NOPE they are probably not best for the KOTH. Guess what, My jeep is not built for that. My jeep is built for spending weeks in the back country exploring the country. Not spending all day in 2 sq miles of rocks, seeing the same scenery all day, then putting it on a trailer again and bringing it home.

Enjoy hopping around on rocks all day, My family and I will be out seeing LOTS of beautiful country in our teraflex equipped Jeep and camper.....peace.
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Old Jun 2, 2015 | 08:15 AM
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I agree with Dirtman that the Speed Bumps are very overpriced for what they are. They sell one part number for a two or four door. So you are expecting that a single spring rate(yes I know they are foam, but it acts as a spring here) to work properly on vehicles that can vary by several thousand pounds. I tune my air bumps for the type of terrain I will be wheeling. These are a half way solution for the masses that don't have the willingness or ability to adjust their Jeep for optimal use.
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Old Jun 2, 2015 | 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Ringer
They sell one part number for a two or four door. So you are expecting that a single spring rate(yes I know they are foam, but it acts as a spring here) to work properly on vehicles that can vary by several thousand pounds....
It seems to me that they act as cushions, not as springs.

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