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Old Jun 12, 2007 | 03:07 PM
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no i dont have any pictures, i think there were some on the web site though somewhere around here...the switches go under the aircondition nobs...that blank space by the 4x4 shifter....it just replaces that plastic piece with a new one, i think it comes with 5 or 6 switches allready to....
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Old Jun 15, 2007 | 09:42 AM
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All of our other 4Xs never had so many choices and I think I am getting lost in trees and not seeing the forest. Used to be you just got out and spun the locks or pushed one button and it just worked (or didn't in a couple of cases).

I now realize that although you can press the buttons and the lights come on - that unless you are in 4 lo - the lights don't stop flashing and therefore the lockers aren't locked and the lights are purely entertainment.

What is the advantage (other than for those of us control freaks) of over-riding the existing system (i.e. why did Jeep ONLY allow these to function within 4 lo?). I guess I'm looking for specific examples so I can learn how to most efficiently use these.

It seems as though there have been several suggestions that using 4 hi in any areas of hard pavement can lead to broken items (and non warranty repairs).

Thanks for the education!
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Old Jun 15, 2007 | 10:23 PM
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Well, the reason why jeep did it this way was because, well, poeple are stupid...if they let you use lockers at any speed, they could be liable for you in some ways...like i said, people are stupid out there.

Advantages of going locked in 4hi are numerous. One, there have been many times where you need alot more then 18mph of speed to clear an obstical...with the stock wiring on the lockers, you cant exceed that limit..which sucks. The largest areas that running locked with speed will help is in the mud and on the sand. Sand....you need lots of wheel spin...mud, well, you just better have the tires going faster then 18mph bc you cant clean them when they are turnin that slow
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Old Jun 15, 2007 | 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by bofer84
Well, the reason why jeep did it this way was because, well, poeple are stupid...if they let you use lockers at any speed, they could be liable for you in some ways...like i said, people are stupid out there.

Advantages of going locked in 4hi are numerous. One, there have been many times where you need alot more then 18mph of speed to clear an obstical...with the stock wiring on the lockers, you cant exceed that limit..which sucks. The largest areas that running locked with speed will help is in the mud and on the sand. Sand....you need lots of wheel spin...mud, well, you just better have the tires going faster then 18mph bc you cant clean them when they are turnin that slow
Thanks - looks like this mod will be added to my list of to dos!

Now if I can only get some input on bumpers and winches!
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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Don-A-Vee
The factory locker switch would be bypassed if you do the mod this way.

You would 'tap" into the relay by connecting a ground wire and switch to the colored wire coming out of the relay as specified in the last 2 pics of my last post. You could always use one of those cheap crimp on connectors...
is this correct? -

1) you would need two separate switches for this - one for the front locker and one for the rear locker (i guess unless you didn't want to be able to control them independently, in which case you could ground both to a single switch). neither switch would need power wires ran to them - they would only need to be grounded (unless the switch had a light of some sort on it, indicating on and off???).

2) using these two switches would just bypass the oem locker switch, but when the switches are in the "off" position, the oem locker switch would still operate normally???


and a question -
would these switches, when used, actually turn the lockers on (without having to use the oem locker switch as well) or would these new switches just allow (i.e. still require) the use of the oem locker switch to be used when in 2wd and 4hi?

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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 04:49 PM
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everything you said was correct...except your last statement. You would use the switch you installed if you want to lose your lockers over 18mph and or independently (2 switches), use the factory if you want them to turn off at 18mph
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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by bofer84
everything you said was correct...except your last statement. You would use the switch you installed if you want to lose your lockers over 18mph and or independently (2 switches), use the factory if you want them to turn off at 18mph
so the switches will function to lock the lockers, without touching the oem locker switch, correct?

what would be the reason for wanting to use the oem locker switch, allowing them to turn off over 18mph? (what situation would this be useful for, since you aren't supposed to drive over 20mph in 4lo anyway?)

anyone know how the esp reacts to using these switches?
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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 08:39 PM
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not really sure... haha, and there are no benefits i see
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by mcnaught6
so the switches will function to lock the lockers, without touching the oem locker switch, correct?

what would be the reason for wanting to use the oem locker switch, allowing them to turn off over 18mph? (what situation would this be useful for, since you aren't supposed to drive over 20mph in 4lo anyway?)

anyone know how the esp reacts to using these switches?
yes, the switches would work without using the factory locker switch. When the switches are off the factory locker switch would function as normal.
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by medsker
I already did this and I just ran wires from the relays into the cab and to the switches and then from the other sides of the switches to ground. I think I like the idea of grounding the T-case better so I have the option of turning off the esp all the way also.
did you splice the wire into the relay control wires, then run that wire to the ground position on the switch, then run wires that are grounded to both of the other two prongs on the switch?

the part i don't understand is how to wire the switch to apply a ground, when the switch is normally used to apply power.
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