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Old Mar 25, 2014 | 08:55 AM
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For those with the COMPLETE MC 3.5 Gamechanger or ARB Edition has anyone experienced issues with "tail wagging " Other than one person?? I don't find this mentioned by anyone else but may have missed it.

Also jnabird333 can you describe the setup at the time you noted this issue? Was it the 2.5 or 3.5 was it a complete kit meaning all MC parts?
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Old Mar 25, 2014 | 09:00 AM
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I haven't had any rear end stability issues. I don't know what would be different but I have been very happy with my kit. Now I just need to get the beads out of the tires because that has not been as advertised for me.

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Old Mar 25, 2014 | 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by BuckLisa
Going from stock arms to MC arms is not going to improve your ride much at all. It will only give you more flex off-road.
While the stock arms might not hold up well to a lot of flex they do not limit it... About the only things that affect flex are bump stops and shock lengths. I have seem rigs running 14" travel coilovers on stock arms.
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Old Mar 25, 2014 | 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by BuckLisa
Going from stock arms to MC arms is not going to improve your ride much at all. It will only give you more flex off-road. There are no complete lifts. I added Rick Krawler arms to my AEV 4.5 lift and there was no need to change everything else. All for one inch... It's Your $, good luck!
So, stock CA's are better than MC's for on road ride quality and handling?? Am I wrong to think that a properly set-up axle would handle better than the use of generic brackets??
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Old Mar 25, 2014 | 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by rsbmg
For those with the COMPLETE MC 3.5 Gamechanger or ARB Edition has anyone experienced issues with "tail wagging " Other than one person?? I don't find this mentioned by anyone else but may have missed it.

Also jnabird333 can you describe the setup at the time you noted this issue? Was it the 2.5 or 3.5 was it a complete kit meaning all MC parts?
I have essentially a 3.5" GCL but I have Bilstein 5160s rather than the OME shocks. FWIW: I think the "softer" OME shocks would be a better pair to the MC spring rate. But this would not affect the issue I had. I have a 13' JKUR and a pretty light build.

I would also not call my issue a "tail wagging" one, but rather a single bump in the rear each time the center of gravity shifted from one side to the other. Unfortunately the country roads I drive on do this often so it was a constant nuisance. Highway driving was and remains great.

The only thing I changed was the rear bracket to lower the mount 2". The problem went away.

It is important to note that MC only recently increased the height of their bracket. The old location is still present on the mount and is now used as a datum. While I agree that there are a bunch of these kits on the road there is a much smaller percentage actually running the "tall" bracket.

We ordered our kit on Black Friday 13'. It is my understanding that this is about when the bracket changed. In fact, The pictures of I saw on the web site were still of the old "shorter" bracket. When my kit arrived I questioned it because it didn't look right and I was then informed that it was a recent change.

I'm not saying that the bracket will cause issues for everyone, hell for some it might be the best thing since sliced bread! I'm just saying it didn't work for me.
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Old Mar 25, 2014 | 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by DallasJKU
So, stock CA's are better than MC's for on road ride quality and handling?? Am I wrong to think that a properly set-up axle would handle better than the use of generic brackets??
Yes, stock arms will provide a better ride do to the increased rubber isolation. If the brackets get your caster where it needs to be then yes, you are also wrong to think the adjustable arms will do more.
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Old Mar 25, 2014 | 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by jnabird333
Yes, stock arms will provide a better ride do to the increased rubber isolation. If the brackets get your caster where it needs to be then yes, you are also wrong to think the adjustable arms will do more.
Good to know.
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Old Mar 25, 2014 | 10:30 AM
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I am totally confused!! Say I didn't want to spend $2,700 for the MC GC ARB but I wanted to get 2.5" of lift with a softer shock on my 2012 JKUR. Could I just get the 2.5" coils, OME shocks, bump stops and longer break lines and install them using all of the other stock parts (CAs and TBs)?
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Old Mar 25, 2014 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by BatJeep09
My question (I haven't read the entire thread yet) did MC warranty it, or did you have to pay for a replacement?
Yes, they did offer to warrantee the joint without me asking for it.
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Old Mar 25, 2014 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by snags922
I am totally confused!! Say I didn't want to spend $2,700 for the MC GC ARB but I wanted to get 2.5" of lift with a softer shock on my 2012 JKUR. Could I just get the 2.5" coils, OME shocks, bump stops and longer break lines and install them using all of the other stock parts (CAs and TBs)?

Yes, you can simply do that. Your axles will be off set without a relocation bracket and adjustable track bar but at 2.5" it will be minimal and if you don't like it you can simply add those later. Make sure you add longer front sway bar links so you don't flip the sway bar at full droop when connected.

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