rock Krawler custom legth CA's
I'm one of those that has the drivers rear shock body that comes in contact with the bracket. I haven't corrected the issue yet out of laziness. I guess I'm waiting to see if it gets worse.
But on another note, this is how I managed to get my arms torqued while off the Jeep.




In that one pick with the bags, that's about 115 pounds of bowling balls keeping the zink rods on the ground while I stand on the big daddy crescent wrench.
But on another note, this is how I managed to get my arms torqued while off the Jeep.
In that one pick with the bags, that's about 115 pounds of bowling balls keeping the zink rods on the ground while I stand on the big daddy crescent wrench.
I will see when I get home. It's not alot. Maybe 3. I know mine is still nice and tight and I used thread lock just to be safe. There is actually a hole in the frame rail that you can get a nut in there if you wanted to.
Damn are you being paid to push RK? I know they have really stepped up the propaganda brigad on JKowners. Lately all you do is talk about how great RK is and recommend them to every newb that asks about lifts. People should not have to cut down arms to adjust them shorter. Any kit will will cause things like clearance issues and bowed coils but RK seems to have the worst track record with their design. As one of the bigger lift kit mfg's out there they seem to have more issues then companies like, metalcloack, currie, ORE, clayton, etc. Every time they come out with a new joint the forums are all a buzz about how good they are and how good they flex.
I remember this rhetoric since the original joints came out. 1st gen were a failure, the awesome second gen were a failure and now we have the current joint and they were forced to come out with the new pro flex joint because MC was kicking their ass in the marketplace. The pro crawler joint is ok but far from the best thing on the market and nobody can even utilize the amount of misalignment on a JK the joint offers (like most other current joints on the market). The poor design of pushing the axle back 1" causes extreme coil bowing at 3.5"+ of height is solved with a band aid solution so they can get more money from you. These wedges should be included in the kits as they know what the design does. Moving the axle back 1" while not addressing the alignment of the bracketry really offers no increase in performance and I can't see why that that is perceived as a benefit of the RK kit. Kinda like their 3" stretch kit, not really worth the effort and cost for the benefit you get from such a small stretch.
RK is a fine company and puts out decent products but to be fair to others that are looking at kits, they do have their shortcomings. If their products are a good fit for you then great, I am sure you will get years of quality performance from them.
Ok, let the dirtman bashing and hater comments commence.
I remember this rhetoric since the original joints came out. 1st gen were a failure, the awesome second gen were a failure and now we have the current joint and they were forced to come out with the new pro flex joint because MC was kicking their ass in the marketplace. The pro crawler joint is ok but far from the best thing on the market and nobody can even utilize the amount of misalignment on a JK the joint offers (like most other current joints on the market). The poor design of pushing the axle back 1" causes extreme coil bowing at 3.5"+ of height is solved with a band aid solution so they can get more money from you. These wedges should be included in the kits as they know what the design does. Moving the axle back 1" while not addressing the alignment of the bracketry really offers no increase in performance and I can't see why that that is perceived as a benefit of the RK kit. Kinda like their 3" stretch kit, not really worth the effort and cost for the benefit you get from such a small stretch.
RK is a fine company and puts out decent products but to be fair to others that are looking at kits, they do have their shortcomings. If their products are a good fit for you then great, I am sure you will get years of quality performance from them.
Ok, let the dirtman bashing and hater comments commence.
Not true .. Go to WF RK, Synergy, TF, MC all make great stuff. The point here is the shortened rear arms. I agree with a lot of what you said man. My jeep consist of Synergy steering, EVO Coils, RK arms, TF rear bracket, a mix of shit
Last edited by kjeeper10; Apr 24, 2015 at 07:25 AM.
Damn are you being paid to push RK? I know they have really stepped up the propaganda brigad on JKowners. Lately all you do is talk about how great RK is and recommend them to every newb that asks about lifts. People should not have to cut down arms to adjust them shorter. Any kit will will cause things like clearance issues and bowed coils but RK seems to have the worst track record with their design. As one of the bigger lift kit mfg's out there they seem to have more issues then companies like, metalcloack, currie, ORE, clayton, etc. Every time they come out with a new joint the forums are all a buzz about how good they are and how good they flex.
I remember this rhetoric since the original joints came out. 1st gen were a failure, the awesome second gen were a failure and now we have the current joint and they were forced to come out with the new pro flex joint because MC was kicking their ass in the marketplace. The pro crawler joint is ok but far from the best thing on the market and nobody can even utilize the amount of misalignment on a JK the joint offers (like most other current joints on the market). The poor design of pushing the axle back 1" causes extreme coil bowing at 3.5"+ of height is solved with a band aid solution so they can get more money from you. These wedges should be included in the kits as they know what the design does. Moving the axle back 1" while not addressing the alignment of the bracketry really offers no increase in performance and I can't see why that that is perceived as a benefit of the RK kit. Kinda like their 3" stretch kit, not really worth the effort and cost for the benefit you get from such a small stretch.
RK is a fine company and puts out decent products but to be fair to others that are looking at kits, they do have their shortcomings. If their products are a good fit for you then great, I am sure you will get years of quality performance from them.
Ok, let the dirtman bashing and hater comments commence.
I remember this rhetoric since the original joints came out. 1st gen were a failure, the awesome second gen were a failure and now we have the current joint and they were forced to come out with the new pro flex joint because MC was kicking their ass in the marketplace. The pro crawler joint is ok but far from the best thing on the market and nobody can even utilize the amount of misalignment on a JK the joint offers (like most other current joints on the market). The poor design of pushing the axle back 1" causes extreme coil bowing at 3.5"+ of height is solved with a band aid solution so they can get more money from you. These wedges should be included in the kits as they know what the design does. Moving the axle back 1" while not addressing the alignment of the bracketry really offers no increase in performance and I can't see why that that is perceived as a benefit of the RK kit. Kinda like their 3" stretch kit, not really worth the effort and cost for the benefit you get from such a small stretch.
RK is a fine company and puts out decent products but to be fair to others that are looking at kits, they do have their shortcomings. If their products are a good fit for you then great, I am sure you will get years of quality performance from them.
Ok, let the dirtman bashing and hater comments commence.
I have to back Dirtman on this one. The propaganda runs deep. The joints have been a series of engineering failures. Having seen pictures of some of their products (e.g. the infamous solid chromoly drag link) that apparently just broke in half, raises questions on material sourcing. I don't fault a product for failing under use - heck, I bent a MC control arm. Material failure due to metallurgical issues is a whole different situation...
Or the common comment of "RK arms are solid and stronger than what's out there." Actually, it is cheap solid bar, which is notably cheaper than DOM. Strength of tube is nearly maxed at 1/4" wall, the rest is just added weight. Diameter is where the strength is - or higher grades of material.
Even what the kit names imply. "I got the Max Travel so I would have more flex." The stock arms will flex the same amount. We're talking 10"-11" travel shocks and most people use so much bump stop, they aren't even adding travel over a stock Jeep.
My new favorite though and something I have been looking at, is the Pro Tie Rod (just the ends, not the whole thing - but I can't get my head around the price for the ends...). They sell the ends for $200 or the whole tie rod for $525. The rod is 1-5/8" 7075. So, that stick of 7075 is priced at $325. Right now, you should be saying the same thing I did, WTF?! Places like Branik or Wide Open Design sell 7075 for about $200 less, machined and ready to go. Anyone who buys the whole thing should have their bank account frozen and an executor appointed.
The comment about the new joints riding better, fails the BS test though.
Or the common comment of "RK arms are solid and stronger than what's out there." Actually, it is cheap solid bar, which is notably cheaper than DOM. Strength of tube is nearly maxed at 1/4" wall, the rest is just added weight. Diameter is where the strength is - or higher grades of material.
Even what the kit names imply. "I got the Max Travel so I would have more flex." The stock arms will flex the same amount. We're talking 10"-11" travel shocks and most people use so much bump stop, they aren't even adding travel over a stock Jeep.
My new favorite though and something I have been looking at, is the Pro Tie Rod (just the ends, not the whole thing - but I can't get my head around the price for the ends...). They sell the ends for $200 or the whole tie rod for $525. The rod is 1-5/8" 7075. So, that stick of 7075 is priced at $325. Right now, you should be saying the same thing I did, WTF?! Places like Branik or Wide Open Design sell 7075 for about $200 less, machined and ready to go. Anyone who buys the whole thing should have their bank account frozen and an executor appointed.
The comment about the new joints riding better, fails the BS test though.





