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Steering stabilizers!?!

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Old Mar 27, 2013 | 01:49 PM
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My steering was bad with 4" lift. Added front lower control arms and it made it 75% better. Best $250 I've spent so far.
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Old Mar 27, 2013 | 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by EzK
My steering was bad with 4" lift. Added front lower control arms and it made it 75% better. Best $250 I've spent so far.
Flip kit I installed made a huge difference.

It all works together and truly should all be done when you lift up higher. $$$ makes us all take short cuts or build it up over time. Once done right, a lifted JK drives quite nicely.

I'd do what EzK did and get your control arms and caster sorted and then look at a flip kit.
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Old Mar 27, 2013 | 03:23 PM
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A properly done 4" lift that is going to perform on road and off should have nearly everything under it replaced with heavier duty adjustable links.

Going cheap and incomplete will result in lots of problems and lots of costs in the end.
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Old Mar 27, 2013 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by CerOf

Flip kit I installed made a huge difference.

It all works together and truly should all be done when you lift up higher. $$$ makes us all take short cuts or build it up over time. Once done right, a lifted JK drives quite nicely.

I'd do what EzK did and get your control arms and caster sorted and then look at a flip kit.
Ya I just wasn't educated enough and I wish OK tire would have tried to upsell me on everything else cause I would have spent the money but I'm learning the hard way that there is a lot more to a lift and bigger tires than just the lift.
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Old Mar 27, 2013 | 05:06 PM
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A lift is simply longer coils or a spacer on top of the coils.
Too bad doing that totally screws with the entire suspension and steering system. The higher you go the worse it gets and the more money you spend and more components you have replace to correct it.
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Old Mar 27, 2013 | 06:58 PM
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I'd bent my stabilizer bracket slightly, and it stressed out the stabilizer until it finally couldn't hide the DW I was experiencing. The stabilizer will mask underlying problems, as others have pointed out. I just did the grade-8 bolt kit today and the track bar bolt was in fact loose (evidently a common cause of DW, but I had no clue until I read planman's post- thanks PM!).

The take-home message for me was, "re-torque the track bar bolts and do it often!".

I replaced my stabilizer with an Old Man Emu, and really like it, but I am cautious now about the stabilizer potentially hiding underlying problems. Having replaced the LCA and trackbar bolts, the DW is gone now.
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Old Mar 27, 2013 | 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by BigRedJK
I think that's bump steer, not DW
Thank you for pointing this out... too many people claim "death wobble" when its really just a bit of vibration from having a solid front axle...

If we all complain enough to Chrysler about bump steer (calling it DEATH-wobble) maybe the next wrangler will have IFS!!! (sarcasim btw)
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Old Mar 27, 2013 | 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by hypeiv

Thank you for pointing this out... too many people claim "death wobble" when its really just a bit of vibration from having a solid front axle...

If we all complain enough to Chrysler about bump steer (calling it DEATH-wobble) maybe the next wrangler will have IFS!!! (sarcasim btw)
Bud I think I know thw difference between a bit of wobble and death wobble... its not just bump steer and sure as hell aint a little wobble... its an I have to stop or slow to 10k/hr or my entire jeep would probably fall apart... only happens In the city with all the huge potholes.
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Old Mar 27, 2013 | 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by ScooterMac

Bud I think I know thw difference between a bit of wobble and death wobble... its not just bump steer and sure as hell aint a little wobble... its an I have to stop or slow to 10k/hr or my entire jeep would probably fall apart... only happens In the city with all the huge potholes.
I had the same thing with the 6 inch kit. Took it to 4 wheel parts. They said to junk the drop pitmam arm. Use the stock one and kick the track bar bracket. The rear one is ok. But the front one blows. I still get mild DW. I was getting the full blown stuff you are getting. They said I didn't need the flip kit but I'm going to do it evenways. Also check the track bolt holes on the axle and frame. Mine on the frame were messed up. Got a friend to weld on some washers and replaced the bolts with half thread grade 8. It's cheaper to get the bolts and hardware from a hardware store than online. I'm pretty much over DW and just have some minor bump steer. Message me if you have any questions. The lifts are about the same for the 4 to the 6.
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Old Mar 30, 2013 | 05:22 AM
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I am totally stock except for the Rancho steering stabilizer that I installed just before going to the dealership. Service mgr said the Rancho was a good step up from the small, weak OEM. Of course after a "all set now" it happened again 3x in 10 miles. Yes we have bumps/potholes on the highways in MA. I can't drive around every one of them. Back to the dealer, I told him the drag link bushing, passenger side was clunking per Planman video. They have finally replaced it and now say the Rancho stabilizer is defective because it won't push back. Wtf, it's not nitro charged and isn't supposed to push back. They now have installed a new upgraded OEM steering stabilizer. I'm picking it up in an hour after 4 days and am not convinced it will be any different. I've replaced the track bar bolts with 9/16 grade 8,but will get the Northridge kit and do all others. Next off to the shop for an alignment. Tires rotated and balanced, track bar bushings seem fine (not wallowed out) all other Planman checks fine. Rubi take off shocks 3 years, 35k ago, may replace them to get the newer ride feel back. I'm getting discouraged. I'll need therapy soon. Sent a letter to NHTSA, we should all do the same. If nothing else, all dealerships should have a Chrysler directive on EXACTLY what to do, in one visit, before someone else gets killed or maimed.
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