they are sponsor

 

Guess you missed this thread https://www.jk-forum.com/forums/jk-show-tell-33/one-reason-buy-shrockworks-middy-59668/
As a recent survivor of a rear collision I can attest to the rigidness of the stock rear bumper. I didn't think it would hold up either but the proof is in the photos. I now plan on keeping the rear bumper till it's completely trashed from the trails.

 

Yeah but that was a straight across the back hit. The car that hit you from behind hit the frame rails as well. The problem is out on the ends where there is nothing behind that pile of a bumper

 

If a vehicle hits your back quarter panel, you're screwed no matter what bumper you have on. If a vehicle hits your rear at any angle in almost any vehicle you're still screwed. 8 out of 10 times, your going to have frame damage no matter what bumper your running. Only good thing about the stock is, the ends will fold in before you tweak the frame, unlike a solid steel bumper.

Now, I will admit, rockcrawling, I don't think the bumper will give you the protection under the back quarterpanels that a solid steel will.

BTW, just to add my .02, I'm planning on going with ORFab swingaway.

 

Very nice can't wait to get mine,coming soon

OR-FAB tire carrier

 

what the price for that Or-fab tire carrier...sorry if it was posted already and didnt see it.

 

Or-Fab lists it on their site at $680.

 

From what I've seen, I like the Or-Fab carrier a lot. But what is the horizontal bar going across the center of the spare?

 

It's the Wiley E. Coyote plunger option.



*L* it's the T handle for the tire holder.

 

Does look like that.
But seriously, is that a twist bar to secure the spare? If so, is that an option and does it come alternately with lug securing?
Looking to get one of these because right now I have a Rampage rear bumper and they don't make it with a swingaway carrier. I really like the look of the bumper though and I think the Or-Fab is a good solution, but I want the spare secured by my keyed lugs.