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2012 JK RIPP Supercharger Sneak Peak - Worlds First Supercharged 3.6

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Old Mar 11, 2013 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by rcohen1122
30% of 320 is 96. 320 + 96 = 416. Ask RIPP, perhaps they can confirm how to convert drivetrain loss to actual crank HP.
Um, not quite . . .

Gross - rate of loss = net

Net + rate of loss does NOT EQUEL gross

that is:

I earned $100 (gross) and had to pay the IRS 15% (rate) or $15 = $85 (net ) or a $15 loss

$85 net + IRS 15% loss (12.75) = $97.75

I did not earn $97.75 did I?

Not a $12.75 tax, but a $15 tax . . . right?

Thus

475 gross - 33% (rate) = about 320 net
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Old Mar 11, 2013 | 06:54 PM
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Not worth arguing with you about this anymore. You are clearly off with your math here. Agree to disagree.
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Old Mar 11, 2013 | 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by rcohen1122
Not worth arguing with you about this anymore. You are clearly off with your math here. Agree to disagree.
No! Don't say that! I love math. Please, show me where I am wrong. Why is 475 - 33% not equal to 320?

Where am I clearly off?

If I am "clearly off with your math" show me.

Not being a jerk, I am being sincere.

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Old Mar 11, 2013 | 07:18 PM
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Ok No hard feelings.

You cant start with 475 and then take a percentage off of that number. Where do you get 475 from? You must start with a real number that is provided by the dyno. So for example:

If you dyno a car and it says that it has 200 wheel hp and you figure a 30% drivetrain loss, you must multiply 200 x 1.3 (or 130%) If you do so you will get 260 hp at the crank.

Also, just think about it. If this 475 number is true (which would be awesome) RIPP's supercharger would be giving the 3.6 JK a 180 hp boost. I just cant imagine their supercharger would add much more than 100-120 crank hp at the most.
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Old Mar 11, 2013 | 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by rcohen1122
Ok No hard feelings.

You cant start with 475 and then take a percentage off of that number. Where do you get 475 from? You must start with a real number that is provided by the dyno. So for example:

If you dyno a car and it says that it has 200 wheel hp and you figure a 30% drivetrain loss, you must multiply 200 x 1.3 (or 130%) If you do so you will get 260 hp at the crank.

Also, just think about it. If this 475 number is true (which would be awesome) RIPP's supercharger would be giving the 3.6 JK a 180 hp boost. I just cant imagine their supercharger would add much more than 100-120 crank hp at the most.
Why can't I start at a number (475) and take away until I get 33% less?

I have no direct knowledge or experience with Ripp, but, I get 475 from (x-33%)=320, thats all. Where am I wrong?




"I just cant imagine their supercharger would add much more than 100-120 crank hp at the most."

Based upon what actual experience in supercharging 3.6 engines?
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Old Mar 11, 2013 | 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by rcohen1122
Ok No hard feelings.

You cant start with 475 and then take a percentage off of that number. Where do you get 475 from? You must start with a real number that is provided by the dyno. So for example:

If you dyno a car and it says that it has 200 wheel hp and you figure a 30% drivetrain loss, you must multiply 200 x 1.3 (or 130%) If you do so you will get 260 hp at the crank.

Also, just think about it. If this 475 number is true (which would be awesome) RIPP's supercharger would be giving the 3.6 JK a 180 hp boost. I just cant imagine their supercharger would add much more than 100-120 crank hp at the most.
Start with your measured hp, divide that by the 70% loss (320/0.7) and you have 457 crank hp. 457 - 30% (457 x 0.7) or 457 - (457 x 0.3) is equal to 320 rw hp.

Edit: this may be a little fantasy as it is a 56% increase in hp. While possible, not sure the engine is up to it - rods, bearings, pistons etc

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Old Mar 11, 2013 | 09:11 PM
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so which jeep made 320/305? The modded one or the stock setup? In the video it looks like the stock jeep made 180 rwhp (stick or auto?). I would think the modded jeep with 37" and gears would put down a bit less to the rear wheels.
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Old Mar 11, 2013 | 09:55 PM
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R they doing one for the 3.8 as well
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Old Mar 11, 2013 | 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by 11JK_Lazo
R they doing one for the 3.8 as well
Yes, already out. http://www.rippmods.com/Products_off...p_JK_s/259.htm
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Old Mar 12, 2013 | 03:04 AM
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While u guys get off on math skills.....

How is the stock auto trans going to handle this?
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