New! Soon to be Released 2012-Up JK Bolt-on Air System
[QUOTE=Orko;3555624]Installed!

Doesn't this look like the screws are just below/at the plane of the cross member/skid plate? Also, isn't the drain petcock in a vulnerable location? Am I missing something here? Looks like a great kit - and I am interested in getting the unit - but only if it is not going to get bashed on some rocks.
In one of the instruction photos, it appears the adjustable regulator + gauge is attached to the under vehicle mounting bracket. It this correct? Seems like a strange spot for an adjustable item - it would be better to locate the manifold + regulator under the hood or some other location. Am I missing something here?

Doesn't this look like the screws are just below/at the plane of the cross member/skid plate? Also, isn't the drain petcock in a vulnerable location? Am I missing something here? Looks like a great kit - and I am interested in getting the unit - but only if it is not going to get bashed on some rocks.
In one of the instruction photos, it appears the adjustable regulator + gauge is attached to the under vehicle mounting bracket. It this correct? Seems like a strange spot for an adjustable item - it would be better to locate the manifold + regulator under the hood or some other location. Am I missing something here?
[QUOTE=VtSoundman;3567527]
I received my dual system little over a week ago but have been to busy to start on it til today. Today put in the tank fittings and looking over pics and directions and wondering big time.
I agree with you Soundman, Been looking at the pics myself and thinking one good rock and the system is gone. The tank petcock looks like even if you could find a skid to fit over the system the petcock would be sticking an inch or so below skid. Travis, I was under the impression from the writeup that a skid plate wasn't really needed as it would be fairly fortified? Do you plan to make a skid plate or is there a skid plate that will cover this system and will the petcock be above the skid or is this just an on road setup?
Installed!

Doesn't this look like the screws are just below/at the plane of the cross member/skid plate? Also, isn't the drain petcock in a vulnerable location? Am I missing something here? Looks like a great kit - and I am interested in getting the unit - but only if it is not going to get bashed on some rocks.
In one of the instruction photos, it appears the adjustable regulator + gauge is attached to the under vehicle mounting bracket. It this correct? Seems like a strange spot for an adjustable item - it would be better to locate the manifold + regulator under the hood or some other location. Am I missing something here?

Doesn't this look like the screws are just below/at the plane of the cross member/skid plate? Also, isn't the drain petcock in a vulnerable location? Am I missing something here? Looks like a great kit - and I am interested in getting the unit - but only if it is not going to get bashed on some rocks.
In one of the instruction photos, it appears the adjustable regulator + gauge is attached to the under vehicle mounting bracket. It this correct? Seems like a strange spot for an adjustable item - it would be better to locate the manifold + regulator under the hood or some other location. Am I missing something here?
I agree with you Soundman, Been looking at the pics myself and thinking one good rock and the system is gone. The tank petcock looks like even if you could find a skid to fit over the system the petcock would be sticking an inch or so below skid. Travis, I was under the impression from the writeup that a skid plate wasn't really needed as it would be fairly fortified? Do you plan to make a skid plate or is there a skid plate that will cover this system and will the petcock be above the skid or is this just an on road setup?
Doesn't this look like the screws are just below/at the plane of the cross member/skid plate? Also, isn't the drain petcock in a vulnerable location? Am I missing something here? Looks like a great kit - and I am interested in getting the unit - but only if it is not going to get bashed on some rocks.
In one of the instruction photos, it appears the adjustable regulator + gauge is attached to the under vehicle mounting bracket. It this correct? Seems like a strange spot for an adjustable item - it would be better to locate the manifold + regulator under the hood or some other location. Am I missing something here?
In one of the instruction photos, it appears the adjustable regulator + gauge is attached to the under vehicle mounting bracket. It this correct? Seems like a strange spot for an adjustable item - it would be better to locate the manifold + regulator under the hood or some other location. Am I missing something here?
Do you feel this would be better, since an elbow is a little thicker than the drain could be stronger against a rock rather than the stem of the drain?
Yes, the regulator is mounted under the vehicle. We feel it was a good place, since most users set it once for air lockers or air tools and don't ever adjust really. Space is so tight on the Jeep. We did consider making a bracket to mount the regulator under the hood, but this would involve another bracket and higher cost of the kit.
I do appreciate the feedback, good & bad. We are always wanting to evolve the product and improve as we can. Above are just the reasoning behind some of our decisions on the drain valve and regulator.
[QUOTE=RRP777;3567669]
I received my dual system little over a week ago but have been to busy to start on it til today. Today put in the tank fittings and looking over pics and directions and wondering big time.
I agree with you Soundman, Been looking at the pics myself and thinking one good rock and the system is gone. The tank petcock looks like even if you could find a skid to fit over the system the petcock would be sticking an inch or so below skid. Travis, I was under the impression from the writeup that a skid plate wasn't really needed as it would be fairly fortified? Do you plan to make a skid plate or is there a skid plate that will cover this system and will the petcock be above the skid or is this just an on road setup?
The tank is very strong to getting hit and just felt an added skid just for the tank would hang down that much more. If the skid got hit, we felt the tank could take that hit directly since it's steel. The other issue we ran into with covering the tank with a skid, is the added support. If we bolt onto the lower part of the bracket where the compressors are, there is no room on the driveshaft side to run a support. This would not make it as strong as it needed, and not justify the skid all together. The tank itself would be just as strong. Hope that made sense....

Would you guys rather have a bolt-on skid plate for the tank that drops down just a little more to cover the drain valve? We can make it bolt onto the bracket that wraps underneath the compressors and extend over just past the center line of the tank.
Let us know, as again, we are open to feedback and adjustments.
[QUOTE=Onboard-Air.com;3567945]The screws are in upside down, as the heads should be on the bottom for better clearance. We are currently trying to source a shorter drain, but haven't had the luck of finding anything significantly shorter. We have considered a flush plug in the drain location, but do not recommend this for liability reason. If someone were to remove that plug under pressure, it can shoot out of the port VERY fast.... again we don't recommend this as a drain. We even considered an elbow with a drain in the side, but this hung down the same as the drain itself.
Do you feel this would be better, since an elbow is a little thicker than the drain could be stronger against a rock rather than the stem of the drain?
Yes, the regulator is mounted under the vehicle. We feel it was a good place, since most users set it once for air lockers or air tools and don't ever adjust really. Space is so tight on the Jeep. We did consider making a bracket to mount the regulator under the hood, but this would involve another bracket and higher cost of the kit.
I do appreciate the feedback, good & bad. We are always wanting to evolve the product and improve as we can. Above are just the reasoning behind some of our decisions on the drain valve and regulator.
We might develop a skid in the future for the tank, and it would cover the drain. This is definitely an off-road application. The room is very limited. We have yet to see if a full underneath skid system will work, but I am thinking it will. Just need to cut a hole in it to access the drain.
The tank is very strong to getting hit and just felt an added skid just for the tank would hang down that much more. If the skid got hit, we felt the tank could take that hit directly since it's steel. The other issue we ran into with covering the tank with a skid, is the added support. If we bolt onto the lower part of the bracket where the compressors are, there is no room on the driveshaft side to run a support. This would not make it as strong as it needed, and not justify the skid all together. The tank itself would be just as strong. Hope that made sense....
Would you guys rather have a bolt-on skid plate for the tank that drops down just a little more to cover the drain valve? We can make it bolt onto the bracket that wraps underneath the compressors and extend over just past the center line of the tank.
Let us know, as again, we are open to feedback and adjustments.
Couldn't you do an offset tank drain like this.
Do you feel this would be better, since an elbow is a little thicker than the drain could be stronger against a rock rather than the stem of the drain?
Yes, the regulator is mounted under the vehicle. We feel it was a good place, since most users set it once for air lockers or air tools and don't ever adjust really. Space is so tight on the Jeep. We did consider making a bracket to mount the regulator under the hood, but this would involve another bracket and higher cost of the kit.
I do appreciate the feedback, good & bad. We are always wanting to evolve the product and improve as we can. Above are just the reasoning behind some of our decisions on the drain valve and regulator.
We might develop a skid in the future for the tank, and it would cover the drain. This is definitely an off-road application. The room is very limited. We have yet to see if a full underneath skid system will work, but I am thinking it will. Just need to cut a hole in it to access the drain.
The tank is very strong to getting hit and just felt an added skid just for the tank would hang down that much more. If the skid got hit, we felt the tank could take that hit directly since it's steel. The other issue we ran into with covering the tank with a skid, is the added support. If we bolt onto the lower part of the bracket where the compressors are, there is no room on the driveshaft side to run a support. This would not make it as strong as it needed, and not justify the skid all together. The tank itself would be just as strong. Hope that made sense....

Would you guys rather have a bolt-on skid plate for the tank that drops down just a little more to cover the drain valve? We can make it bolt onto the bracket that wraps underneath the compressors and extend over just past the center line of the tank.
Let us know, as again, we are open to feedback and adjustments.
[QUOTE=Redman333;3568206]
Yes, that drain would work and is what we prefer also, but just couldn't source a tank with the right dimensions that had this drain. The dimensions are so critical in fitting in that tight spot, that it didn't leave us much options. In order to do this, we would have to go with a custom tank but requires high order quantities to keep the cost where it is vs. jumping up quite a bit.
I am trying to search for a low profile drain in the mean time.
The screws are in upside down, as the heads should be on the bottom for better clearance. We are currently trying to source a shorter drain, but haven't had the luck of finding anything significantly shorter. We have considered a flush plug in the drain location, but do not recommend this for liability reason. If someone were to remove that plug under pressure, it can shoot out of the port VERY fast.... again we don't recommend this as a drain. We even considered an elbow with a drain in the side, but this hung down the same as the drain itself.
Do you feel this would be better, since an elbow is a little thicker than the drain could be stronger against a rock rather than the stem of the drain?
Yes, the regulator is mounted under the vehicle. We feel it was a good place, since most users set it once for air lockers or air tools and don't ever adjust really. Space is so tight on the Jeep. We did consider making a bracket to mount the regulator under the hood, but this would involve another bracket and higher cost of the kit.
I do appreciate the feedback, good & bad. We are always wanting to evolve the product and improve as we can. Above are just the reasoning behind some of our decisions on the drain valve and regulator.
Couldn't you do an offset tank drain like this.

Do you feel this would be better, since an elbow is a little thicker than the drain could be stronger against a rock rather than the stem of the drain?
Yes, the regulator is mounted under the vehicle. We feel it was a good place, since most users set it once for air lockers or air tools and don't ever adjust really. Space is so tight on the Jeep. We did consider making a bracket to mount the regulator under the hood, but this would involve another bracket and higher cost of the kit.
I do appreciate the feedback, good & bad. We are always wanting to evolve the product and improve as we can. Above are just the reasoning behind some of our decisions on the drain valve and regulator.
Couldn't you do an offset tank drain like this.

I am trying to search for a low profile drain in the mean time.




