What would you like in a snorkel design?
JK Enthusiast
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OK, just to give some perspective and credence to what I said above I've done a few shots to show what I mean.
First off, here's the shot we have thus far of the RR snorkel from the outside, which roughly shows it's mounted position just within the windscreen itself:
This shot shows the position of the Safari snorkel relative to the upright and most importantly the windscreen, since that's what we look out of:
OK, on to the actual view from inside the Jeep. Here is the RR snorkel:
And here's the Safari snorkel from the exact same position:
Now mine is a right hand drive JK but for these pics that is neither here nor there. In a LHD US JK what you will see when you're driving with the RR snorkel is this:
Running the Safari snorkel what you will see is this (minus the steering wheel):
And if you're in Australia, UK or any other country driving RHD JKs all you will actually see whilst driving is this:
To me, the vision I have out of my windscreen is of utmost importance and I'm simply not going to impair or degrade it to that degree, even if the snorkel in question is a bit cheaper, partially detachable and requires a lesser degree of cutting. Add to that the other minus points outlined in my post above and this one just doesn't stack up for me. Just my personal opinion, though, and YMMV..
First off, here's the shot we have thus far of the RR snorkel from the outside, which roughly shows it's mounted position just within the windscreen itself:
This shot shows the position of the Safari snorkel relative to the upright and most importantly the windscreen, since that's what we look out of:
OK, on to the actual view from inside the Jeep. Here is the RR snorkel:
And here's the Safari snorkel from the exact same position:
Now mine is a right hand drive JK but for these pics that is neither here nor there. In a LHD US JK what you will see when you're driving with the RR snorkel is this:
Running the Safari snorkel what you will see is this (minus the steering wheel):
And if you're in Australia, UK or any other country driving RHD JKs all you will actually see whilst driving is this:
To me, the vision I have out of my windscreen is of utmost importance and I'm simply not going to impair or degrade it to that degree, even if the snorkel in question is a bit cheaper, partially detachable and requires a lesser degree of cutting. Add to that the other minus points outlined in my post above and this one just doesn't stack up for me. Just my personal opinion, though, and YMMV..
JK Freak
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From: Surrey, UK
Safari Snorkel Side Window View
Here ya go:
BTW, this is in no way meant to be disrespectful to the RR design team, I'm just airing my own concerns regarding the design and being as this is still in the design stage they may well be able to address the issue if they so wished. All the best with the project.
BTW, this is in no way meant to be disrespectful to the RR design team, I'm just airing my own concerns regarding the design and being as this is still in the design stage they may well be able to address the issue if they so wished. All the best with the project.
JK Enthusiast
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I believe the issue with the stock intake is two fold. At the front of the hood, more likely to get hit with a bow wave, and the other issue is the serpentine belt apparently has a tendency to fling water up on top of the stock intake allowing it to be sucked in.
If you are going to be crossing water deep enough to get to the RR one seems to me you should be fitting the rest of the snorkel to it.
I believe the issue with the stock intake is two fold. At the front of the hood, more likely to get hit with a bow wave, and the other issue is the serpentine belt apparently has a tendency to fling water up on top of the stock intake allowing it to be sucked in.
If you are going to be crossing water deep enough to get to the RR one seems to me you should be fitting the rest of the snorkel to it.
I just see a design like how TheDirtman did himself being way more effective, atleast for someone like myself.
I could be completely wrong on how I am interupreting how the modular design works, but the again I could be right. I am by all means also not trying to diss the design RR is producing, I would just like an answer to what I am pointing out. I, along with others, would be one of the people that would never purchase the higher version that runs up the pillar. Since it is completely different than the original design, I would like this newer/updated version to be explained to all of us...
Last edited by JKRoobi; Mar 7, 2011 at 07:53 AM.
JK Freak
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Maybe but regardless which side of the Jeep you drive from your vision will still be impeded. I'm not sure if it'd be worse with a LHD or a RHD vehicle because if the design impinges on the windscreen itself that would be even less ideal if you're driving on the same side as the snorkel.
Last edited by wrangler07; Mar 7, 2011 at 08:25 AM.
JK Enthusiast
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Vision issue to me doesn't seem like a big thing, run the low option, when your ready to wheel, install upper portion. Thats how I'm going to do it. I wheel maybe 15 times a year, so the other 95% of the year it's street driving and I don't want a snorkel sticking up the side of the windshield anyway
JK Freak
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Vision issue to me doesn't seem like a big thing, run the low option, when your ready to wheel, install upper portion. Thats how I'm going to do it. I wheel maybe 15 times a year, so the other 95% of the year it's street driving and I don't want a snorkel sticking up the side of the windshield anyway
JK Enthusiast
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Maybe but regardless which side of the Jeep you drive from your vision will still be impeded. I'm not sure if it'd be worse with a LHD or a RHD vehicle because if the design impinges on the windscreen itself that would be even less ideal if you're driving on the same side as the snorkel.
The RR design doesn't look like it would impact visibility enough for me to be an issue, IMO of course. The flexibility of the RR design is a huge plus for me, again, IMO. 95% of the time I would using the low mount anyway, as my jeep is my daily driver. Let's face it, very few of us encounter deep water crossings every day, sure would make the morning commute more interesting if we did!
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JK Enthusiast
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Originally Posted by wrangler07
Maybe but regardless which side of the Jeep you drive from your vision will still be impeded. I'm not sure if it'd be worse with a LHD or a RHD vehicle because if the design impinges on the windscreen itself that would be even less ideal if you're driving on the same side as the snorkel.
The RR potential design looked really good, but as it evolves, not sure.
I think for us driving CRD's then we will have to go for one like yours.
JK Freak
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That said, if it ran along the outside of the upright I can't see why it wouldn't be light bar compatible, anyways..
Last edited by wrangler07; Mar 7, 2011 at 09:14 AM.