What would you like in a snorkel design?
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Originally Posted by Rugged_Ridge
OK.... can of worms here. 70 pages in and I'm wondering how to explain all this. 
The images are of working models. These models are to be used for tooling manufacturing cost. We needed models to get an idea of total production cost. They will have styling added back in.
The following is the list of design ideas we wanted to cover.
(1) Design was to offer a better solution than the larger side mounted units.
(2) Design was to reduce body cutting to the least amount possible.
(3) Design was to allow side cowl to be added back for OE look if needed.
(4) Design was to allow for use of dual battery trays.
(5) Design was to place standard intake in better location than factory air intake.
(6) design was to offer modular design so that different intakes could be used.
(7) design was to place tall intake inbound for trail use - reduced damage
(I live in the south... ever been wheeling here? Nothing to grab!)
(8) design to work with light W/S light tabs (low mount)
(9) design to work with light bar (tall mount)
(10) design to allow the use of pre-filter if desired.
(11) design to allow w/s to be lowered (low mount).
With that said I think we managed to get all (11) done. That is no easy task. Now will it be everything to everyone... No freaking way....! Have we tried to cover all the things people asked for.... Yes, when possible. Have we ended up with a bastard child? .... I don't think so.
Now to try to cover the concerns..
(1) View out the w/s - where it is located does not affect view as bad as it might look. Drove it all weekend and did not have a problem at all... Wife rode in the passenger side and never even noticed it... (Maybe that’s not so good?
). RHD guys.... What can I say. You drive on the wrong side anyway.. 
. Low mount is for you.. If sales are good than we can look into more world market products like CRD air box size and location...
(2) Inside the w/s frame - The real reason for the intake mounted inbound is to reduce size and to keep the thing out of harm’s way. As noted above, we did not want to have it placed in a spot that could be ripped off. This allows it to work with “most” light bars and racks.
(3) Current low mount intake point - This has been the biggest issue to figure out. The mount has to be out and away from the flow of water on the hood. Not an issue driving so much as sitting still. We needed the intake low for a clean look but this places it in the path of water running off the Jeep when sitting still. When you’re on the trail you’re not moving at 50+mph. The intake off to the side takes care of this. Location of main body intake is still located on top. The cover channels the air up from the side and needs to pass a foam pre-filter before entering the housing. After driving for 3-4 hours in different rain conditions this weekend I had little or no water inside of main housing. Also note, the main housing has a water trap and a system to allow extra water to be removed. WE ARE STILL exploring other options but we must keep the intake a given size. Current location is 36" further back and 5" higher than stock intake. This is measured from the lowest point of the intake. This covers 99% off all your needs regarding water. If you need something taller than we have the high intake.... Besides you’re going to have other issues to deal with going that deep .... Just saying
. ALSO.. the Mango Tango has cut fenders and 37” tires… Got a lot of spray. You guys with no fenders…? Can’t solve all the problems just yet but again that tall mount answers this issue.
(4) Looks and the original drawings - First let me say thank you for liking the napkin drawings. Second, we understand a lot of what has been said. We will be sizing parts to look more natural together. As stated these are test mules not production parts. As for the original side mount... If sales are good I can see other options down the road.
(5) Cost - We are working to keep it in the $400 range (plus or Minus).
With that said here are a few more images. Some people asked about the pre-filter and how it looks without the light bar.
The images are of working models. These models are to be used for tooling manufacturing cost. We needed models to get an idea of total production cost. They will have styling added back in.
The following is the list of design ideas we wanted to cover.
(1) Design was to offer a better solution than the larger side mounted units.
(2) Design was to reduce body cutting to the least amount possible.
(3) Design was to allow side cowl to be added back for OE look if needed.
(4) Design was to allow for use of dual battery trays.
(5) Design was to place standard intake in better location than factory air intake.
(6) design was to offer modular design so that different intakes could be used.
(7) design was to place tall intake inbound for trail use - reduced damage
(I live in the south... ever been wheeling here? Nothing to grab!)
(8) design to work with light W/S light tabs (low mount)
(9) design to work with light bar (tall mount)
(10) design to allow the use of pre-filter if desired.
(11) design to allow w/s to be lowered (low mount).
With that said I think we managed to get all (11) done. That is no easy task. Now will it be everything to everyone... No freaking way....! Have we tried to cover all the things people asked for.... Yes, when possible. Have we ended up with a bastard child? .... I don't think so.
Now to try to cover the concerns..
(1) View out the w/s - where it is located does not affect view as bad as it might look. Drove it all weekend and did not have a problem at all... Wife rode in the passenger side and never even noticed it... (Maybe that’s not so good?
). RHD guys.... What can I say. You drive on the wrong side anyway.. . Low mount is for you.. If sales are good than we can look into more world market products like CRD air box size and location...(2) Inside the w/s frame - The real reason for the intake mounted inbound is to reduce size and to keep the thing out of harm’s way. As noted above, we did not want to have it placed in a spot that could be ripped off. This allows it to work with “most” light bars and racks.
(3) Current low mount intake point - This has been the biggest issue to figure out. The mount has to be out and away from the flow of water on the hood. Not an issue driving so much as sitting still. We needed the intake low for a clean look but this places it in the path of water running off the Jeep when sitting still. When you’re on the trail you’re not moving at 50+mph. The intake off to the side takes care of this. Location of main body intake is still located on top. The cover channels the air up from the side and needs to pass a foam pre-filter before entering the housing. After driving for 3-4 hours in different rain conditions this weekend I had little or no water inside of main housing. Also note, the main housing has a water trap and a system to allow extra water to be removed. WE ARE STILL exploring other options but we must keep the intake a given size. Current location is 36" further back and 5" higher than stock intake. This is measured from the lowest point of the intake. This covers 99% off all your needs regarding water. If you need something taller than we have the high intake.... Besides you’re going to have other issues to deal with going that deep .... Just saying
. ALSO.. the Mango Tango has cut fenders and 37” tires… Got a lot of spray. You guys with no fenders…? Can’t solve all the problems just yet but again that tall mount answers this issue.(4) Looks and the original drawings - First let me say thank you for liking the napkin drawings. Second, we understand a lot of what has been said. We will be sizing parts to look more natural together. As stated these are test mules not production parts. As for the original side mount... If sales are good I can see other options down the road.
(5) Cost - We are working to keep it in the $400 range (plus or Minus).
With that said here are a few more images. Some people asked about the pre-filter and how it looks without the light bar.
This will look great on my jeep! I can't wait till this hits the market
Great job rugged ridge!
JK Enthusiast
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Well... I have pushed it showing what i have over the last 6 months. We would like to keep this part under wraps for now. There are other manufacturers coming out with cowl corner intakes so we want to make sure we all come up with different solutions. Better for all. This lets you guys make the choice. I'm sure the other company would feel the same.
Hey awsome work by the way. I like to see a company that cares enough about its product to go directly to the comsumers and say "hey, what do you guys want?" Keep it up. Honestly, I never really thought much of RR other than just another accessory company, I'm now a big RR fan. Thanks.
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Originally Posted by ludski
idk if i just cant find it or anything, but are there any pics of how it connects to the intake from the engine? like an actual clear engine shot.
