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Old Jul 7, 2010 | 12:24 PM
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Mossburg, Remington,--Chevy, Ford,---Dewalt, Makita. Look they all will do the job. If you aren't going hunting or skeet and trap shooting. Shop for the best price. Chances of you having to use it are slim to non. You said under $400. I would be Walmart bound. If you wanna go more expensive look into a benelli or beretta shotgun. They are automatic shot guns and not pump guns.
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Old Jul 7, 2010 | 12:36 PM
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and I got a conversion keep make it all black and use the pistol grip.
Nothing like the sound of a shotgun being racked.
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Old Jul 7, 2010 | 01:53 PM
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I have a Mossberg 12 Guage, pistol grip, with the breacher tip. Geezzz If they don't run just seeing that thing or hearing a round getting jacked into it, then the deserve to be shot.
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Old Jul 7, 2010 | 02:37 PM
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I am one of those who prefer a pistol, and yes, I know about the drawbacks. After carrying one for 25 years, competing with one for years and actually having used one in life and death situations, I am comfortable with those limitations. I am always within reach of a .45 if it is not actually on my body.

Having said that, I DO have an old Mossberg 500A1 (8+1), a rabbit-eared side x side 12ga and a Marlin Camp Carbine in 45acp with a folding stock & light for my home defense "long guns".

Unless there are multiple intruders, I don't think I will need to fall back to them, but having them around is insurance for just that scenario.

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Old Jul 7, 2010 | 05:49 PM
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Maverick 88 (Mossberg 500) 12 ga pump is my choice. Sits right next to my AR-15.
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Old Jul 14, 2010 | 08:48 AM
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870 with 00 buck. Birdshot is for birds!

google the box o' truth. several penetration tests that are suprising.
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Old Jul 14, 2010 | 10:08 AM
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We have two shotguns and two pistols in the house. His and hers. My shotgun is a Benelli M1014 (limited edition) and hers is Remmington 870 with a surefire light, pistol grip and shortened stock; she is short. Both are loaded (no racking, just a really bright light to get their attention) with 00 buck. Pistols, hers is in 40 smith and wesson, mine is 9mm. Like it has been mentioned, the pistols are secondary weapons or just long enough to grab one of the shot guns. If they ignore the dog barking, growling, and one of us asking them nicely to leave while they are still upright, then they can be carried out.
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Old Jul 16, 2010 | 05:53 PM
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Thanks for all the info guys. Can't wait to shoot some stuff!
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by _Jedi_
For a long while, my go-to weapon for home defense was a pistol. After some thinking and sage advice from individuals who really know of what they speak, I now use a shotgun for home defense. If the laws in my state were not so screwed up, I would use a carbine for home defense. To paraphrase one of the individuals, a pistol (secondary individual weapon) is only good for providing you the defense to get to your shotgun/riflel (primary individual weapon).

Before I give you a few of the reasons shown to me, lets be clear on one fact. As soon as you pick up the weapon (pistol, shotgun, or rifle) you have made a decision to use deadly force against an unknown individual who poses a threat to the safety of you and your family. With that said, here are a few reasons:
  1. Pistols are a less accurate and less stable platform. This is just a simple fact. When you have a choice between a 3.5" barrel compared to an 18" barrel, the question of accuracy is a no-brainer. Besides barrel length, think about the number of points of contact between your body and the weapon. With a pistol, you likely have 1 or 2 (your hands only). With a shotgun or rifle, you will likely have 3 or 4 (2 hands + stock + cheek weld).
  2. To win the engagement, you will need every advantage you can get. This isn't about having a "fair" fight, it is about out-smarting and out-gunning the bad guy. If they have a knife, you need a gun. If they have a gun, you need a shotgun/rifle. (Most "petty" criminals will use a knife or handgun) If they have a shotgun/rifle, you need to have a shotgun/rifle and friends with the same.
  3. A rifle round (30-06, .223, .308, etc...) is more lethal than a pistol round. There are TONS of ballistic charts available to back this up. What many find surprising is that there are many rifle rounds with great ballistics that do not have the over-penetration issues most people worry about with these higher velocity ammunitions.
  4. When it comes to shotguns, the reasoning is simple enough.... of one 9mm hole is good, then nine 8.3mm holes (00 buck) are better! Remember that the goal is to resolve the situation as quickly as possible.

The shotgun I chose for home defense is the Remington 870 Security. It is 18" and holds 7+1 shells. The ONLY modification I have made to it is the addition of a sling.

One last comment for all the "rack it to scare them off" crowd... WHAT ARE YOU DOING WITH AN UNLOADED SHOTGUN????? Without a round in the chamber a pistol, shotgun, or rifle is nothing more than a paper weight. At 3am, when I wake up to breaking glass, the last thing I want to worry about is having a type III malfunction.

No matter what you decided to get, make sure you fully familiarize yourself with it... to the point that you can operate it in the dark while you are half asleep... because that is exactly what you will need to do. While I recommend taking a defensive position, calling 911, and yelling for the bad guy to leave, if you insist on "clearing" your home, make sure you learn how to properly pie a corner and keep your chicken wings in.
Originally Posted by jpfan
870 with 00 buck. Birdshot is for birds!

google the box o' truth. several penetration tests that are suprising.
Originally Posted by arcoleman
We have two shotguns and two pistols in the house. His and hers. My shotgun is a Benelli M1014 (limited edition) and hers is Remmington 870 with a surefire light, pistol grip and shortened stock; she is short. Both are loaded (no racking, just a really bright light to get their attention) with 00 buck. Pistols, hers is in 40 smith and wesson, mine is 9mm. Like it has been mentioned, the pistols are secondary weapons or just long enough to grab one of the shot guns. If they ignore the dog barking, growling, and one of us asking them nicely to leave while they are still upright, then they can be carried out.
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#1. If what they are doing justifies shooting them with ANY shotgun round, it justifies using lethal force. Period.

#2. Once you decide to use lethal force, be as lethal as you are able to, as quickly as you are able to. Anything else gives the badguy(s) time to be VERY lethal to you and your family.

#3. Birdshot at anything more than absolute contact ranges (which are measured in INCHES, not feet) will not penetrate enough to be effective. There is no valid excuse for anything other than buckshot or slugs in a defensive shotgun.

When you are using any defensive weapon, your goal is to make the badguy STOP doing what he is doing as quickly as possible. That generally means that you want to put a lot of medium to large holes in him. Buckshot is a very good way of doing that. A slug will also work.

By the way...if I had my druthers, an AR-15 carbine would also be my personal choice for home defense. 30 very effective rounds of frangible .223 in a short-barreled platform with room for a very bright light and red dot sight is the best thing that I can think of for dealing with one or more badguys. That is especially true for me since I spent a lot years carrying and using an AR while in uniform. My hands already know how to operate and AR effectively....my brain can stay focused on the badguy, what he's doing, and the tactical situation with 100% certainty. Whatever your weapon choice is, train with it as if your life depends on it. One day, it might.
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Old Jul 27, 2010 | 11:24 PM
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My home defense shotty is a Remington 870
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