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Old Apr 9, 2010 | 04:29 AM
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That is very misguided. The US has had year after year of trade imbalances so that really doesn't hold water. What keeps the economy healthy is the strength of financial system and the capital to invest in multinational companies.

This is a great time to invest in US manufacturing. High unemployment, a weak dollar, lots of vacant capacity and skilled labor. You can buy in at the bottom of the market, without devaluing your product to save a buck. That's a smart corporate move, especially when your company is touting "US Quality" as part of their branding and value proposition.
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Old Apr 9, 2010 | 04:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Vernnz
#1 Made In USA.
#2 Europe, specifically Germany. They just have a quality and pride in workmanship that is worth every penny.
#3 Other Overseas. I have done it, but regret it 9 times out of 10.

Regardless of price I am leaning more toward Made In USA.

And Thanks for even asking. Most manufacturers don't even care enough to check with their customers. They score the sales and deal with the backlash later.
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Made in the USA means alot to me. Better quality and it keeps Americans employed...you get what you pay for, usually.
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Old Apr 9, 2010 | 04:34 AM
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I find it kinda funny, alot of the people posted on here say they want american made goods, but have chinese made parts.
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Old Apr 9, 2010 | 05:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Piginajeep
I find it kinda funny, alot of the people posted on here say they want american made goods, but have chinese made parts.
What pegs my giggle meter is that if Strange engineering or Moser entered this market they could provide all the quality of Currie or Dynatrac by virtue of having a lower cost of doing business without the need to jump off shore to preserve their margin.
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Old Apr 9, 2010 | 05:05 AM
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I always look for American made. Seems to be hard to find. I will pay more for the product.
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Old Apr 9, 2010 | 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by JPop
When I have a choice, I don't buy "Made in China" goods. Not that I only buy USA goods, but I make a solid effort to buy products from countries...
That's a good point. I do the same and I make my wife do the same (and oh does she hate looking).

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Sourcing off shore is a cowards way out, and a ship has long since sailed as to providing real cost benefits when everything is taken into account.
I couldn't agree more. Especially when you consider many local areas in the states will offer very attractive tax benefits and sometimes give away land or lease buildings for dirt cheap to attract businesses. They do it because they know that the benefits of having the business and its jobs will benefit them more than what their giving away.

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Oh, and just to be clear I don't shop at Walmart ...
This I do not understand. Years ago Walmart was known for having a lot of Chinese crap. However, they have be swayed by the consumer demand for US goods. It behooves us to continue encouraging this trend. I do most of my shopping at Walmart because I've found a higher density of made in the USA products than I have at stores such as Home Depot.

For instance, my wife and I stopped at Home Depot for something specific and in the process looked at light bulbs. The specific light bulbs were made in China. I passed and after Home Depot we went to Walmart. I checked and found the same light bulbs, but the ones they had there were made in the USA. (In the interest of fairness it's possible there was some small difference, but it was the same brand, wattage, and no immediately discernable difference to either one.)

I've purchased several things from Walmart for the home this month and all but one of them were made in the USA (in one case for spackle I had the choice and opted for the US made product that was more expensive).
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Old Apr 9, 2010 | 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Piginajeep
I find it kinda funny, alot of the people posted on here say they want american made goods, but have chinese made parts.
Why do you find it funny? Consider reasons why someone might have purchased Chinese made items. Your desire to purchase made in the USA products doesn't preclude you from ever buying anything made in China. Here are a few reasons I can think of off the top of my head.
  1. The product had no known US equivalent.
  2. The product had no comparable US made product that was commensurate in price. Obviously, we expect to pay more for US made products, but sometimes the difference is in a different league.
  3. The origin of the product was not obvious and wasn't advertised.
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Old Apr 9, 2010 | 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by tgrt
Why do you find it funny? Consider reasons why someone might have purchased Chinese made items. Your desire to purchase made in the USA products doesn't preclude you from ever buying anything made in China. Here are a few reasons I can think of off the top of my head.
  1. The product had no known US equivalent.
  2. The product had no comparable US made product that was commensurate in price. Obviously, we expect to pay more for US made products, but sometimes the difference is in a different league.
  3. The origin of the product was not obvious and wasn't advertised.
read the people that say they it Matters, then read the mod lists.

its obvious they dont know where the lifts or the bumpers are being built. Aside from my procomp rims, and the powerplant, the rest is US. The steel tubing of my control arms is actually produced about 40 minutes from my house. I cant get any closer than that!

I know you can not have everything built in the US, its just not possible, But I do appreciate a company that builds and buys steel in the in the US. They just dont send it to china to make the profit margins higher

to answer Dyntracs question, I'll pay more to know I'm buying US made products.

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Old Apr 9, 2010 | 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by tgrt
This I do not understand. Years ago Walmart was known for having a lot of Chinese crap. However, they have be swayed by the consumer demand for US goods. It behooves us to continue encouraging this trend. I do most of my shopping at Walmart because I've found a higher density of made in the USA products than I have at stores such as Home Depot.

For instance, my wife and I stopped at Home Depot for something specific and in the process looked at light bulbs. The specific light bulbs were made in China. I passed and after Home Depot we went to Walmart. I checked and found the same light bulbs, but the ones they had there were made in the USA. (In the interest of fairness it's possible there was some small difference, but it was the same brand, wattage, and no immediately discernable difference to either one.)

I've purchased several things from Walmart for the home this month and all but one of them were made in the USA (in one case for spackle I had the choice and opted for the US made product that was more expensive).
There are business practices Walmart employs that I don't agree with. Their policies and contracts placed 3 of my customers on the fringe of closing their doors well before the market crashed, and each of them needed to file for Chapter 11 protection to restructure their companies. Walmart Employees largely aren't paid a living wage and have poor healthcare options.

Nothing in life I need doesn't come from alternative retailers and suppliers. It's not going to be a life changing event if I save a couple pennies on a roll of paper towels. I don't see the switch to more US made products being anything more than taking advantage of the devalued dollar. Nope, just not my cup of tea.
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Old Apr 9, 2010 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Piginajeep
I know you can not have everything built in the US, its just not possible, But I do appreciate a company that builds and buys steel in the in the US. They just dont send it to china to make the profit margins higher

to answer Dyntracs question, I'll pay more to know I'm buying US made products.
I agree 100%. We're passionate about American steel ourselves.
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